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Debaser
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 28.03.2003
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 941
Îòêóäà: Cleveland, OH

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, ßíâàðÿ 10, 2007 1:54am    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

Äèàíà,

Åñëè ýòî ñîïðîâîäèòåëüíîå ïèñüìî, òî îíî íèêóäà íå ãîäèòñÿ, èçâèíè çà îòêðîâåííîñòü. �îñìîòðè íà íåãî ãëàçàìè áóäóùåãî ðàáîòîäàòåëÿ.  íåì íåò òåáÿ àáñîëþòíî. Åäèíñòâåííûé ìîìåíò, êîòîðûé êàñàåòñÿ òåáÿ ëè÷íî, ýòî òî, ÷òî òû ó÷èøüñÿ â �ðÿíñêîì óíèâåðñèòåòå. Êàêèì îáðàçîì, óçíàâ òîëüêî ýòî, îí âîñïûëàåò æåëàíèåì òåáÿ âçÿòü íà ðàáîòó èëè õîòÿ áû ïðèãëàñèòü íà èíòåðâüþ? �îñìîòðè â ãóãëå îáðàçöû cover letters. È äà, ó òåáÿ îêîëî 10 îøèáîê íà 6 ïðåäëîæåíèé. �åðåäåëàòü, ïðè÷åì âñå ñ íà÷àëà, IMHO.
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Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå
anuta
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 02.11.2005
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 237
Îòêóäà: Irkutsk-Daytona Beach-Philadelphia

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, ßíâàðÿ 10, 2007 8:00pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

OK, why didn't you write anything about yourself? Your specialty, skills, and work experience. You need to explain why are you applying to this particular company. How will you AND the company benefit from your work there? Show off yourself within reasonable limits, of course. Your goal is to convince them to offer you a position, so convince them!
Please, do not underestimate a Cover Letter; this is the most important thing that your employer will read; if he doesn't like what he sees he won't even go as far as reading your resume. I am speaking from my personal experience as I am perpetually asked to serve on various hiring committees and I tell you what: if a cover letter is "weak" then the whole application often goes to a "trash can".
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Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå
LadyDi032
�îâè÷îê


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 27.10.2006
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 31

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, ßíâàðÿ 10, 2007 8:15pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

Ok anuta, I've got everything that you said! Thank you for this true words, and I will try with all my force to create such a cover letter that eveybody will like!! Êëàññíî So, of course, I knew that I wrote something really simple, actually, I've just tried to show you something. So, here is a new version of my cover letter, but I know that it's not so exsellent that it should be, so that is why i am here and I ask you for wise advise that all you can give me Ñòûäíî Thank you Debaser, for honest words, I am just leaning how to do it Äóìàþ Just tell me what should I add and what should I delete, ok? I hope that you'll help me. Ok, let's see what I've done.....

Diana Greben
156-33 Moscow prospect
Bryansk, Russia 241004
Mobile: 89206021219
ladydi032@gmail.com

January 10, 2006

Employer Contact Information
Name
Title
Organization (ýòè ïîëÿ áóäóò çàïîëíÿòüñÿ íåïîñðåäñòâåííî ïåðåä îòïðàâêîé)
Address
City, State, Zip Code


Dear Mr. Shah.
As an undergraduate student of Bryanks State Technical University (Russia), majoring in Applying computer science in economics, I would like to participate in the “Career Training USA� Program and I am looking for a host company for the internship. My opportunities include development of professional information systems on the all stages of there life cycle, to provide information security when company interact with the information markets using network I have a strong background in special economics computer programs as Project Expert, Quick Sales, Audit Expert and many others, software development and believe that these skills would benefit the activity of Collaborative technologies.

Your company is attached with IT services and solutions and very suitable for my specialty. I am interested in system administration services and I would like to apply for the consultant position upon completion of my degree in June 2007. Actually, here in Russia, this kind of companies as yours, is in the beginning of there development. At the same time, USA goes for 10 steps forward in the IT technologies. This useful experience will help me in my future job.

All the information about me, you can read in my resume below. Also I enclose all the information which connected with the “Career Training USA� program.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I will be happy to discuss my internship opportunity at Collaborative technologies by e-mail ladydi032@gmail.com or by mobile phone 89206021219.

Sincerely,
Diana Greben

Waiting for your recommendation....
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå Îòïðàâèòü e-mail
anuta
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 02.11.2005
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 237
Îòêóäà: Irkutsk-Daytona Beach-Philadelphia

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, ßíâàðÿ 10, 2007 10:38pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

OK, this letter is a little bit better. Here are few of my comments:
1. Replace “my opportunities� with something more appropriate, “my skills� perhaps?
2. what is “there�? you mean “their�?
3. Remove “many others� when talking about economic computer programs
4. be specific about “software development�; give an example.
5. Why do you think the particular skills you have will benefit this company? Did they use exact same programs you’ve listed? Make sure you understand the specifics of this company’s work.
6. Replace “attach� with something more appropriate
7. Remove “Actually�
8. Last paragraph is not good at all; please redo it. You may say smth like that: Please find enclosed my resume and the information about “Career training…�
9. Remove “waiting for your recommendations�
10. Now, one more thing: too many grammatical errors; and the style of your writing is not there yet. Please, go over your writing with a fine tooth comb few more times.
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå
Debaser
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 28.03.2003
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 941
Îòêóäà: Cleveland, OH

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: ×åòâåðã, ßíâàðÿ 11, 2007 2:30pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

Diana,

Anuta already provided you with some useful input. Meanwhile, here is something I notice that is wrong with your grammar/style.

Diana Greben
156-33 Moscow prospect
Bryansk, Russia 241004
Cell phone: 89206021219 Russia country code is 7, not 8. So your phone number is +7-920-602-1219
ladydi032@gmail.com I suggest you get a more professionally looking e-mail address, such as Diana.Greben@gmail.com
January 10, 2006

Employer Contact Information
Name
Title
Organization (ýòè ïîëÿ áóäóò çàïîëíÿòüñÿ íåïîñðåäñòâåííî ïåðåä îòïðàâêîé)
Address
City, State, Zip Code


Dear Mr. Shah,
I am an undergraduate student of Bryanks State Technical University (Russia), majoring in Applied Computer Science in Economics. I would like to participate in the “Career Training USA� Program and I am looking for a host company for the internship. Here should be a sentence WHY you think their company is the best opportunity for you. Major ass-kissing. My opportunities include development of professional information systems on the all the stages of their life cycle no comma to provide information security when company interact with the information markets using network. The whole sentence is longwinded and I am not sure anybody but you understands what life cycles of information systems are or that systems even have life. I have a strong background in professional economics computer programs such as Project Expert, Quick Sales, Audit Expert . deleted I also have developed software that does some important crap - describe it briefly! I do believe that these skills would greatly benefit deleted Collaborative Technologies.

Your company specializes in IT services and solutions, and very suitable for my specialty. I am interested in system administration services and I would like to apply for the consultant position upon completion of my degree in June 2007 This goes somewhere at the front of the letter, not at the end. Actually, here in Russia, this kind of companies as yours <Bad idea: you give away the fact that you are interested in any american company, and do not have a particularly great interest in working for THIS company>, is in the beginning of there development. At the same time, USA goes for 10 steps forward in the IT technologies. This useful experience will help me in my future job. Weak statement. Strong statement would be something like this: I am sure that the experience I will get from working for your company will be my invaluable asset and a strong foundation for my future career development.


OVERALL: the structure of the letter is not thought out well. I suggest to write it in Russian first and make sure that each sentence delivers very strong, concise AND relevant to the purpose of the letter message. You need to tell much more about your professional experiences. Also you need to change that " Your company works with IT. Yay! I wanna work there!" attitude. Know exactly what company does, make sure you want to do that and make sure that you communicate that in the letter to the prospective employer.

I have a question for you. Have you ever read any sample cover letter? There are thousands of them on the internet. Do read some of them please.
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Êëàññíî!
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Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå
LadyDi032
�îâè÷îê


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 27.10.2006
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 31

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: ×åòâåðã, ßíâàðÿ 11, 2007 8:25pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

Thank you Debaser, I really appreciate your remarks. I know that my grammar is not so excellent..... Ãðóñòü You know, I downloaded several cover letters and I looked though them, may be not so carefully...So, know I see it's not so easy as it seems to be....and again thanks a lot....
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå Îòïðàâèòü e-mail
Helen_NJ
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 13.11.2003
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 1539
Îòêóäà: NC, USA

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ïÿòíèöà, ßíâàðÿ 12, 2007 1:25am    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

Öèòàòà:
Applying computer science in economics


�å íàäî óñëîæíÿòü: íàïèøèòå Computer Science. Ñïåöèàëüíîñòåé òèïà "îðãàíèçàöèÿ ìåõàíèçèðîâàííîé îáðàáîòêè èíôîðìàöèè â ýêîíîìèêå" òóò íå ïîíèìàþò.
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå Îòïðàâèòü e-mail Ïîñåòèòü ñàéò àâòîðà
LadyDi032
�îâè÷îê


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 27.10.2006
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 31

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ïÿòíèöà, ßíâàðÿ 12, 2007 9:28pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

Òàê â òîì è äåëî, ÷òî ýòî íå ïðîñòî Computer scince, à èìåííî ïðèêëàäíàÿ èíôîðìàòèêà â ýêîíîìèêå, ïðè÷åì çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ ñïåöèàëüíîñòü â òîì, ÷òîáû âíåäðÿòü óæå èìåþùèåñÿ ïðîãðàììûå ïðîäóêòû, ó÷èòûâàÿ îñîáåííîñòè êîíêðåòíîãî ïðåäïðèÿòèÿ, è ÿ âðîäå òàêîå è íàøëà...õîòÿ òàì ñìîòðÿòü øèðå, òî åñò íå òîëüêî âíåäðÿþò ïðîãðàììû ýêîíîìè÷åñêîé íàïðàâëåííîñòè, òîáèøü ïðîãðàììû áþäæåòèðîâàíèÿ, ïîäñ÷åòû ñìåòû çàòðàò, à ýòà êîìïàíèÿ çàíèìàåòñÿ èìåííî âîïðîñîì àäìèíèñòðèðîâàíèÿ, ðàçðàáîòêîé óïðàâëåí÷åñêèõ ðåøåíèé. Òàê ÷òî ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî ïðîñòî "Èíôîðìàòèêà" íå ãîäèòüñÿ, âîçìîæíî ýòî íàäî èíòåðïðåòèðîâàòü êàê-òî åùå??
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå Îòïðàâèòü e-mail
LadyDi032
�îâè÷îê


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 27.10.2006
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 31

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ïÿòíèöà, ßíâàðÿ 12, 2007 10:00pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

Consulting Division - Collaborative Technologies will provide the right consultant for your project needs. Our consultants are carefully selected based on their experience review, technical evaluation, and background check. Additionally, Our consultants have been well trained and have extensive corporate experience in their particular IT concentration.

Total Solutions Division – The Total Solutions Division will provide your organization with turnkey solutions to your Software Development, Systems Administration, and Network Management needs.

Software Development - Our staff expertise in software engineering allows us to extend our software development methodology and to affect the quality assurance process in the application and development of programs. This assures our clients well-designed, high-quality solutions.

Systems Administration – Our Staff is well equipped to provide a wide range of system administration services including, in part: system upgrades, user registration, maintaining system access and security, load balancing, system fail over, disaster recovery, documentation, training, and general operations guidelines. We also encompass a complete suite of administrative support where clients are looking to outsource these operations.

Network Management –- Our staff will work with you to set and meet specific support needs while our engineers will work with you to effectively plan, assess, build and deploy emerging technologies throughout your corporate infrastructure. Collaborative Technologies is your single-source for meeting your network, management and development needs.

That is what the company exactly. I am just really interested in such activity....but the problem is that i don't know how they call such a position as mine.....so it's the only one company I found.. Ñëåçû
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå Îòïðàâèòü e-mail
LadyDi032
�îâè÷îê


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 27.10.2006
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 31

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ïîíåäåëüíèê, Ìàé 7, 2007 1:30pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

È ïîëãîäà íå ïðîøëî....... Ñìåõ
Âñåì ïðèâåòèê!!!
�ðîïàëà ÿ íà èçðÿäíî äëèòåëüíûé ñðîê, íî òîìó áûëè ïðè÷èíû, è òåì íå ìåíåå íå çàáûâàëà î ôîðóìå, ïîãëÿäûâàëà from time to time
Ó ìåíÿ òàêèå íîâîñòè....
Ñåññèþ ñäàëà óäà÷íî, ÃÎÑû òîæå...Ñåé÷àñ íà äèïëîìå..
�î ñàìîå ãëàâíîå - óñòðîèëàñü íà ðàáîòó. Âñå êàê ãîâîðèòüñÿ äëÿ Âûñøåé öåëè �îäêàëûâàþ
Êîìïàíèÿ íàçûâàåòñÿ R-Style Soflab (www.softlab.ru), Ñïåöèàëèñò îòäåëà ñîïðîâîæäåíèÿ áàíêîâñêîãî ïðîãðàììíîãî îáåñïå÷åíèÿ RS-Bank/Pervasive....Âîò òåïåðü íàáèðàþñü îïûòà Óëûáêà
�î âðåìå÷êî áåæèò è ñîîòâåñòâåííî íàäî èñêàòü job offer, ïî ñåìó âîçíèêëî ïàðó âîïðîñîâ, âîò è õî÷ó ó ôîðóì÷àí ñïðîñèòü ìíåíèÿ:
1) �à äàííûé ìîìåíò âðåìåíè, êàêîé ìàêñèìàëüíûé ñðîê âðåìåíè ñî äíÿ îêîí÷àíèÿ Óíèâåðà äîïóñòèì äëÿ ó÷àñòèÿ â ïðîãðàììå ñòàæèðîâêè? (Èíôîðìàöèÿ âåñüìà ðàçíàÿ.  îäíèõ èñòî÷íèêàõ ïèøåòñÿ 6 ìåñÿöåâ, â äðóãèõ ñðîê äîõîäèò äî 2 ëåò).
2) Ó÷èòûâàÿ ìîé îïûò ðàáîòû ñ ïðîãðàììîé áàíêîâñêîãî íàçíà÷åíèÿ, è êàê ñëåäñòâèå ïîëó÷åíèå çíàíèé î áóõó÷åòå áàíêà è áàíêîâñêîãî äåëà âöåëîì, ñëåäóåò ëè ìíå èñêàòü èìåííî Bank job offer, èëè ýòî íå ïðèíöèïèàëüíî? Ó ìåíÿ ñëîæèëîñü ìíåíèå, ÷òî âñå æå îñíîâíûì äîñòîèíñòâîì ÿâëÿåòñÿ ìîé îïûò ðàáîòû èëè íàâûêè ïðèîáðåòåííûå â ïðîöåññå ðàáîòû, à íå ïðîñòî ìîÿ ñïåöèàëüíîñòü â óíèâåðå.
�óäó ðàäà ëþáîìó ìíåíèþ, ñïàñèáî çà ðàíåå Óëûáêà
Äèàíà
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
Ïîñìîòðåòü ïðîôèëü Îòïðàâèòü ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå Îòïðàâèòü e-mail
Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷


Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421
Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Âòîðíèê, Ìàé 8, 2007 2:42am    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

LadyDi032 ïèñàë(à):
1) �à äàííûé ìîìåíò âðåìåíè, êàêîé ìàêñèìàëüíûé ñðîê âðåìåíè ñî äíÿ îêîí÷àíèÿ Óíèâåðà äîïóñòèì äëÿ ó÷àñòèÿ â ïðîãðàììå ñòàæèðîâêè? (Èíôîðìàöèÿ âåñüìà ðàçíàÿ.  îäíèõ èñòî÷íèêàõ ïèøåòñÿ 6 ìåñÿöåâ, â äðóãèõ ñðîê äîõîäèò äî 2 ëåò).

�îëàãàþ, ÷òî ó êàæäîãî ñïîíñîðà ñâîè ïðàâèëà. Õîòÿ, ëîãè÷íåé áûëî áû, ÷òîáû ñâîè ïðàâèëà áûëè äëÿ êàæäîé îòäåëüíîé ñòðàíû. Óòî÷íÿé ó ñïîíñîðîâ.

LadyDi032 ïèñàë(à):
2) Ó÷èòûâàÿ ìîé îïûò ðàáîòû ñ ïðîãðàììîé áàíêîâñêîãî íàçíà÷åíèÿ, è êàê ñëåäñòâèå ïîëó÷åíèå çíàíèé î áóõó÷åòå áàíêà è áàíêîâñêîãî äåëà âöåëîì, ñëåäóåò ëè ìíå èñêàòü èìåííî Bank job offer, èëè ýòî íå ïðèíöèïèàëüíî?

�å ïðèíöèïèàëüíî. Ãëàâíîå, ÷òîáû ïîçèöèÿ ñîîòâåòñòâîâàëà òâîåìó îáðàçîâàíèþ.
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 27.10.2006
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Ñïàñèáêè Àíäðåé! Óëûáêà
Âîïðîñ ¹1 ñíèìàåòñÿ ñ ïîâåñòêè äíÿ, â÷åðà ïî÷èòàëà ôîðóì íà ÖÌÎ, òàì íàïèñàíî, ÷òî â ñâÿçè ñ èçìåíåíèÿìè ïðàâèë, âûïóñêíèê ìîæåò áûòü ó÷àñòíèêîì ñòàæèðîâêè â òå÷åíèå 3-õ ëåò ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ îáó÷åíèÿ...
Åñòü åùå âîïðîñ...Ó ìåíÿ óæå åñòü SSN è õîòåëü áû ñïðîñèòü, ñëåäóåò ëè îá ýòîì ïèñàòü â ðåçþìå è ÿâëÿåòñÿ ëè ýòî ïëþñîì äëÿ host company, èëè ýòî íå ñòîëü âàæíî?
Òàêæå âû÷èòàëà, ÷òî ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ ïîäàâàòü íà 6-òè ìåñÿ÷íûé ñðîê ñòàæèðîâêè, à çàòåì, ïðè æåëàíèè, êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ, îáåèõ ñòîðîí ìîæíî åå ïðîäëèòü. Òîëüêî íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòíû çàìîðî÷êè ñî ñìíîé ñòàòóñà (DS ôîðìû) è ïðîäëåíèåì âèçû J1. Àíäðåé, ïîÿñíè ïîæàëóéñòà Ñòûäíî
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Andrew
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421
Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Âòîðíèê, Ìàé 8, 2007 6:12am    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

LadyDi032 ïèñàë(à):
Ó ìåíÿ óæå åñòü SSN è õîòåëü áû ñïðîñèòü, ñëåäóåò ëè îá ýòîì ïèñàòü â ðåçþìå è ÿâëÿåòñÿ ëè ýòî ïëþñîì äëÿ host company, èëè ýòî íå ñòîëü âàæíî?

�å äóìàþ, ÷òî ñòîëü âàæíî. Ëó÷øå áîëüøå íàïèñàòü î ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ íàâûêàõ.

LadyDi032 ïèñàë(à):
Òàêæå âû÷èòàëà, ÷òî ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ ïîäàâàòü íà 6-òè ìåñÿ÷íûé ñðîê ñòàæèðîâêè, à çàòåì, ïðè æåëàíèè, êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ, îáåèõ ñòîðîí ìîæíî åå ïðîäëèòü.

Ãäå ïðî÷èòàëà? Êåì ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ?

LadyDi032 ïèñàë(à):
Òîëüêî íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòíû çàìîðî÷êè ñî ñìíîé ñòàòóñà (DS ôîðìû) è ïðîäëåíèåì âèçû J1. Àíäðåé, ïîÿñíè ïîæàëóéñòà Ñòûäíî

�ëàòè äåíüãè, çàïîëíÿé âñå áóìàæêè è âïåðåä. �ðîäëèòü J1-ñòàòóñ ïî ñòàæèðîâêå äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòî - ëèøü ôîðìàëüíîñòè. Ñëåäóåò ïîìíèòü, ÷òî ïðîäëåâàåòñÿ èìåííî ñòàòóñ, íå âèçà.
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 27.10.2006
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Öèòàòà:
Ãäå ïðî÷èòàëà? Êåì ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ?

�ðî÷èòàëà íà ôîðóìå ÖÌÎ. ßêîáû íà 6 ìåñÿöåâ âåðîÿòíåå ïîëó÷èòü âèçó, à ïîòîì ïðîñòî ïðîäëèòü åå ïðè æåëàíèè. Õîòÿ ìíå êàæåòüñÿ ýòî íå ñòîëü âàæíûì, â êîíöå êîíöîâ ÷òî òàêîå 6 ìåñÿöåâ â ðàìêàõ ïîëó÷åíèÿ îïûòà ïî ñïåöèàëüíîñòè è êàðüåðíîãî ðîñòà �å çíàþ

Öèòàòà:
Ñëåäóåò ïîìíèòü, ÷òî ïðîäëåâàåòñÿ èìåííî ñòàòóñ, íå âèçà.

Âîò ýòî ìåíÿ ñîáñòâåííî ãîâîðÿ è ñìóùàåò. Òî åñòü DS-êà áóäåò ïîçâîëÿòü ìíå ëåãàëüíî ðàáîòàòü è íàõîäèòüñÿ íà òåððèòîðèè ÑØÀ, à âèçà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ áóäåò ïðîñðî÷åíà ÷òî ëè? Ãäå ëîãèêà...Èëè ýòî ÿ íå äîãîíÿþ... Ñòûäíî
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
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Andrew
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421
Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Âòîðíèê, Ìàé 8, 2007 2:01pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

LadyDi032 ïèñàë(à):
�ðî÷èòàëà íà ôîðóìå ÖÌÎ. ßêîáû íà 6 ìåñÿöåâ âåðîÿòíåå ïîëó÷èòü âèçó, à ïîòîì ïðîñòî ïðîäëèòü åå ïðè æåëàíèè. Õîòÿ ìíå êàæåòüñÿ ýòî íå ñòîëü âàæíûì, â êîíöå êîíöîâ ÷òî òàêîå 6 ìåñÿöåâ â ðàìêàõ ïîëó÷åíèÿ îïûòà ïî ñïåöèàëüíîñòè è êàðüåðíîãî ðîñòà �å çíàþ

Ôîðóì ÖÌÎ íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ îôèöèàëüíûì èñòî÷íèêîì è ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå, ÷òî ïèøåòñÿ òàì î âèçàõ - ëèøü äîãàäêè è ñóæäåíèÿ. Äîêàæè êîíñóëó, ÷òî âèçà íà 18 ìåñÿöåâ òåáå íåîáõîäèìà - ïîëó÷èøü. �å äîêàæåøü - íå ïîëó÷èøü è íà 6. Ìîÿ äîãàäêà è ñóæäåíèå �îäêàëûâàþ

LadyDi032 ïèñàë(à):
Òî åñòü DS-êà áóäåò ïîçâîëÿòü ìíå ëåãàëüíî ðàáîòàòü è íàõîäèòüñÿ íà òåððèòîðèè ÑØÀ

DS-êà áóäåò ïîçâîëÿòü ïðîõîäèòü ñòàæèðîâêó î îäíîãî ðàáîòîäàòåëÿ, íà êîòîðîãî îíà âûïèñàíà è íàõîäèòñÿ íà òåððèòîðèè ÑØÀ.

LadyDi032 ïèñàë(à):
à âèçà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ áóäåò ïðîñðî÷åíà ÷òî ëè? Ãäå ëîãèêà...Èëè ýòî ÿ íå äîãîíÿþ... Ñòûäíî

Ëîãèêà åñòü è î÷åíü ïðîñòàÿ - âèçà äàåò ïðàâî íà âüåçä â ñòðàíó, ñòàòóñ äàåò ïðàâî îñòàâàòüñÿ â ñòðàíå ëåãàëüíî. Ñðîê ïðåáûâàíèÿ â ñòðàíå îïðåäåëÿåò îôèöåð íà âüåçäå â ñòðàíó. Äëÿ J-1, êòî åäåò íà ñòàæèðîâêè èëè W&T, íàïðèìåð - ýòîò ñòàòóñ îáû÷íî ïðèðàâíèâàåòñÿ ê ñðîêó äåéñòâèÿ DS-2019. Âèçà è ñòàòóñ íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ ñâÿçàííûìè ýëåìåíòàìè.
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LadyDi032
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 27.10.2006
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 31

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Ôîðóì ÖÌÎ íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ îôèöèàëüíûì èñòî÷íèêîì è ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå, ÷òî ïèøåòñÿ òàì î âèçàõ - ëèøü äîãàäêè è ñóæäåíèÿ. Äîêàæè êîíñóëó, ÷òî âèçà íà 18 ìåñÿöåâ òåáå íåîáõîäèìà - ïîëó÷èøü. �å äîêàæåøü - íå ïîëó÷èøü è íà 6. Ìîÿ äîãàäêà è ñóæäåíèå


ÖÌÎ îñíîâûâàåòñÿ íà ñîâåì îïûòå è èìååò óæå ñâîþ îïðåäåëåííóþ ñòàòèñòèêó....

�àñ÷åò âèçû âñå òåïåðü ñòàëî ÿñíî. �ðîñòî íàïðîñòî íåçíàíèå ýòîãî âîïðîñà âûçûâàëî îïðåäåëåííîå áåñïîêîéñòâî Óëûáêà

Ñåãîäíÿ èçëàçèëà Monster.com
�àøëà ïàðó ïîçèöèé, íî âîçíèê îäèí âîïðîñ - Ñòîèò ëè èñïîëüçîâàòü ññûëî÷êó Apply now èëè æå ëó÷øå îïðàâèòü âñþ èíôó î ñåáå íà ìûëî???

Òàêæå ñìîòðåëà âñå ïî Internship - ïîêà íè÷åãî ñòîÿùåãî íå íàøëà Ãðóñòü
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 16.01.2008
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 2

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, ßíâàðÿ 16, 2008 7:32pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

ïðèâåò âñåì!!! ÿ ñíîâà çàäóìàëàñü î âîçìîæíîñòè ñòàæèðîâêè. Â ñâÿçè ñ ýòèì òàêîé âîïðîñ. Êàêîâû ìîè øàíñû íà Âàø âçãëÿä.
 2006 ãîäó áûëà â USA ïî ïðîãðàììå work&travel. Âåðíóëàñü áåç ïðîáëåì è îïîçäàíèé. Çàêîí÷èëà óíèâåðñèòåò ïî ñïåöèàëüíîñòè Ìèðîâàÿ ýêîíîìèêà. Ñåé÷àñ ðàáîòàþ â Ìîñêâå â êîìïàíèè Procter&Gamble, customer servise. �îíèìàþ, ÷òî â òàêîé îãðîìíîé êîìïàíèè, êàê ìîÿ, äëÿ ðàçâèòèÿ íå õâàòàåò îïûòà è íåêîòîðûõ çíàíèé. Õîòåëà áû ïîïðîáîâàòü ïîåõàòü íà ñòàæèðîâêó. Êàêîâû øàíñû? �îíèìàþ, ÷òî ýòî íàèáîëåå ÷àñòî çàäàâàåìûé âîïðîñ. �î ïðîñòî òàê, íà ïåðâûé âçãëÿä. È åùå. Êàê âû äóìàåòå? ßâëÿåòñÿ ëè ïðåèìóùåñòâîì, åñëè ïîïðîáîâàòü ïîñëàòü çàïðîñ â Procter&Gamble â USA òî, ÷òî ÿ ðàáîòàþ â äàííîé êîìïàíèè?Çàðàíåå, îãîìíîå ñïàñèáî çà Âàøå âíèìàíèå ê àíàëîãè÷íûì ïèñüìàì.
Âåðíóòüñÿ ê íà÷àëó
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Andrew
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421
Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US

ÑîîáùåíèåÄîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, ßíâàðÿ 16, 2008 8:13pm    Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòàòîé

Àíàñòàñèÿ, ñóáúåêòèâíî îöåíèâàþ øàíñû êàê î÷åíü õîðîøèå, òàê êàê óæå áûëà â ÑØÀ è ñåé÷àñ ðàáîòàåøü â õîðîøåé êîìïàíèè. Êàêîé ñðîê òû óæå ðàáîòàåøü òàì?

�à ñîáåñåäîâàíèè â ïîñîëüñòâå êîíñóë ñïðîñèò, çà÷åì åäåøü íà ñòàæèðîâêó - îòâåòü, ÷òî ó÷àñòâóÿ â ïðîãðàììå W&T òû ðàáîòàëà ïðîäàâöîì/îôôèöèàíòîì/êàññèðîì è ò. ä., è ýòî ïîìîãëî òåáå ïåðåíÿòü customer service skills. �ëàãîäàðÿ ýòîìó òû óñòðîèëàñü ðàáîòàòü â P&G. Òû ïîíèìàåøü, ÷òî ðàáîòàÿ â P&G òåáÿ îæèäàåò áîëüøîå áóäóùåå, íî äëÿ ýòîãî î÷åíü æåëàòåëüíî ïåðåíÿòü àìåðèêàíñêèé îïûò ðàáîòû ýêîíîìèñòîì/ìåíåäæåðîì è ò. ä.

Ñàìîå ãëàâíîå âî âñåì ýòîì äåëå, ýòî íàéòè ìåñòî ñòàæèðîâêè â Àìåðèêå.

Àíàñòàñèÿ ïèñàë(à):
ßâëÿåòñÿ ëè ïðåèìóùåñòâîì, åñëè ïîïðîáîâàòü ïîñëàòü çàïðîñ â Procter&Gamble â USA òî, ÷òî ÿ ðàáîòàþ â äàííîé êîìïàíèè?

�îïðîáîâàòü íóæíî îáÿçàòåëüíî! Åñëè óäàñòüñÿ ïîëó÷èòü Job Offer îò ýòîãî æå ðàáîòîäàòåëÿ, òîëüêî â ÑØÀ - øàíñû íà ïîëó÷åíèå âèçû ìíîãîêðàòíî âîçðàñòóò. Îïÿòü æå, ýòî ïðîñòî ìîå ìíåíèå.

Óñïåõîâ!
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 16.01.2008
Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 2

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ñïàñèáî çà îòâåò, Àíäðåé. Óâåðåííîñòè â òîì, ÷òî íóæíî ïðîáîâàòü ïðèáàâèëîñü.
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