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Olga �êñïåðò
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Ã�ðèçÃà òüñÿ, äîâîëüÃî òðóäÃî ÷èòà òü ïîñòû Ãà à Ããëèéñêîì ÿçûêå Ãà ôîðóìå.
Ã�îëåå òîãî, ìÃÃ¥ êæà åòñÿ, Ãåò ñìûñëà èñïðà âëÿòü îøèáêè â ðà çãîâîðå, â ñâîáîäÃîì îáùåÃèè - îäÃî äåëî ñïðîñèòü, êà ê áóäåò ñêà çà òü è çà ïîìÃèòü ïðà âèëî, äðóãîå äåëî ïðîñòî âûðà çèòü ñâîþ ìûñëü, à òóò âñå Ãà êèäûâà þòñÿ ñ èñïðà âëåÃèÿìè.
Òåìà , òåì ÃÃ¥ ìåÃåå, èÃòåðåñÃà ÿ, ìîæåò, äèñêóññèþ Ãà ïðà âèòü â Ãåñêîëüêî äðóãîå ðóñëî - áîëåå òåîðèòèçîðîâà ÃÃîå, ÷òî ëè.
Ã�à ïðèìåð, âñå çÃà þò ñî øêîëû sit down! ÌîæÃî ëè ñêà çà òü sit up!, Ãà ïðèìåð. Êà êèå åùå âà ðèà Ãòû ìîæÃî óïîòðåáèòü (â ïðèêà çå=ïîâåëèòåëüÃîì Ãà êëîÃÃ¥Ãèè) è â êà êèõ ñèòóà öèÿõ.
ÌÎæÃî ëè ñêà çà òü (êà ê ó ìåÃÿ Ãà ýêçà ìåÃÃ¥ ïðèìåð áûë -Ããà äî áûëî îòêðûòü ñêîáî÷êè, ïîñòà âèâ ãëà ãîë â ÃóæÃîå âðåìÿ)- she (sit down) on the floor: She sat down èëè she was sitting down? |
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Andrew Ãëà âÃûé òðåïà ÷

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421 Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ñóááîòà, Ìàðòà 27, 2004 2:30pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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I have real problems with theory and I don’t know how to say  _________________ ÀÃäðåé Ãåðà ñèìîâ  |
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Olga �êñïåðò
Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 05.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 97 Îòêóäà: Ã�èãà - ÌîñêâÃ
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ñóááîòà, Ìàðòà 27, 2004 2:34pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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Ãó ýòî äîâîëüÃî ïðèêëà äÃà ÿ òåîðåòèêÃ
Äà âà é äóìà é |
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Andrew Ãëà âÃûé òðåïà ÷

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421 Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ñóááîòà, Ìàðòà 27, 2004 4:08pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Olga ïèñàë(à): |
Ãó ýòî äîâîëüÃî ïðèêëà äÃà ÿ òåîðåòèêÃ
Äà âà é äóìà é |
Maybe both of them?  _________________ ÀÃäðåé Ãåðà ñèìîâ  |
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Guessst red attention
Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 08.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 220 Îòêóäà: USA
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Ìàðòà 28, 2004 5:44am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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Hi guys, it seems like the new forum is quite popular. I am back from my vacation in California and I have a couple of questions for those people who have digital cameras. It seems like mine has kicked the bucket. But I guess, I should open a new topic to discuss this issue.
Oluna, why such hostility? It really does not matter how accurate LINGVO is.
| Olga ïèñàë(à): |
Ã�à ïðèìåð, âñå çÃà þò ñî øêîëû sit down! ÌîæÃî ëè ñêà çà òü sit up!, Ãà ïðèìåð. Êà êèå åùå âà ðèà Ãòû ìîæÃî óïîòðåáèòü (â ïðèêà çå=ïîâåëèòåëüÃîì Ãà êëîÃÃ¥Ãèè) è â êà êèõ ñèòóà öèÿõ.
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Can it be that "sit up" is less of a command as compared to "sit down"?
| Olga ïèñàë(à): |
| ÌÎæÃî ëè ñêà çà òü (êà ê ó ìåÃÿ Ãà ýêçà ìåÃÃ¥ ïðèìåð áûë -Ããà äî áûëî îòêðûòü ñêîáî÷êè, ïîñòà âèâ ãëà ãîë â ÃóæÃîå âðåìÿ)- she (sit down) on the floor: She sat down èëè she was sitting down? |
It depends on the context, if you want to stress the duration of some action, you use the present continuous.
PS. There ARE a lot of people. |
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Andrew Ãëà âÃûé òðåïà ÷

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421 Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Ìàðòà 28, 2004 6:05am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| But I guess, I should open a new topic to discuss this issue. |
Here is topic about digital cameras: www.usaforyou.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396 _________________ ÀÃäðåé Ãåðà ñèìîâ  |
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Olga �êñïåðò
Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 05.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 97 Îòêóäà: Ã�èãà - ÌîñêâÃ
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Ìàðòà 28, 2004 3:59pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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ßçûê -äåëî äèÃà ìè÷Ãîå, îñîáåÃÃî à Ããëèéñêèé. ÃŒÃîãîå çà âèñèò îò ñèòóà öèè, â êîòîðîé ãîâîðèòñÿ ôðà çà .
Ñìîòðèòå, åñëè ÷åëîâåê ñòîèò, òî ÷òîáû ñåñòü, åìó Ãà äî ñäåëà òü sit down. À åñëè ëåæèò (â ïîñòåëè áîëüÃîå ëåæèò, åìó âîäû ïðèÃåñëè), òîãäà åìó Ãà äî ñäåëà òü sit up.
Âîò è âñÿ ðà çÃèöà !
Ã�à ñ÷åò îòêðûâà Ãèÿ ñêîáî÷åê: She was sitting down ñêà çà òü ìîæÃî, Ãî ñèòóà öèÿ áóäåò òà êà ÿ: äåâóøêà ñòîÿëà , ïîòîì óâèäåëà êðà ñèâóþ áà áî÷êó è îñòîðîæÃî, ÷òîáû ÃÃ¥ ñïóãÃóòü ìå-Ã¥-äëåÃÃî ñòà ëà ñà äèòüñÿ (Ãà ïîë/Ãà ñòóë, ò.ä.). Ñèòóà öèÿ âåðîÿòÃà ÿ, Ãî ðåäêî âñòðå÷à þùà ÿñÿ.
Ëîãè÷Ãåå ñêà çà òü She sat down, Ãà âåðÃÿêà äåâóøêà áûëà Ãîðìà ëüÃà è ñêîðîñòü ðåà êöèé ó Ãåå áûëà à äåêâà òÃà ÿ. Ã’.Ã¥. îÃà ñåëà Ãà ïîë è ñòà ëà ÷åì-òî çà Ãèìà òüñÿ (äà õîòü ñèäåòü!)
Åùå âîïðîñ çÃà òîêà ì. Êà ê áóäåò ñêà çà òü "Âêëþ÷èòü"/""Âûêëþ÷èòü"? |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðà òîð

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 10.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 8295 Îòêóäà: Russia, Ufa
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Ìàðòà 28, 2004 4:17pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Olga ïèñàë(à): |
ßçûê -äåëî äèÃà ìè÷Ãîå, îñîáåÃÃî à Ããëèéñêèé. ÃŒÃîãîå çà âèñèò îò ñèòóà öèè, â êîòîðîé ãîâîðèòñÿ ôðà çà .
Ñìîòðèòå, åñëè ÷åëîâåê ñòîèò, òî ÷òîáû ñåñòü, åìó Ãà äî ñäåëà òü sit down. À åñëè ëåæèò (â ïîñòåëè áîëüÃîå ëåæèò, åìó âîäû ïðèÃåñëè), òîãäà åìó Ãà äî ñäåëà òü sit up.
Âîò è âñÿ ðà çÃèöà !
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À ïî÷åìó áû ÃÃ¥ ñêà çà òü ïðîñòî "sit"? Ñ òî÷êè çðåÃèÿ ëîãèêè ïîäîøëî áû è ê òîìó è ê äðóãîìó ñëó÷à þ. Ã�åò, âñå òà êè ñëîâîîáðà çîâà Ãèå - øòóêà ïîä÷à ñ ìà ëîïîÃÿòÃà ÿ. |
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Guessst red attention
Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 08.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 220 Îòêóäà: USA
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Ìàðòà 28, 2004 4:20pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Olga ïèñàë(à): |
Åùå âîïðîñ çÃà òîêà ì. Êà ê áóäåò ñêà çà òü "Âêëþ÷èòü"/""Âûêëþ÷èòü"? |
Turn on the light
Turn off the light
Turn up the volume
Reduce the volume |
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Andrew Ãëà âÃûé òðåïà ÷

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421 Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Ìàðòà 28, 2004 10:59pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Åùå âîïðîñ çÃà òîêà ì. Êà ê áóäåò ñêà çà òü "Âêëþ÷èòü"/""Âûêëþ÷èòü"? |
In different situations is difference
P. S. Thanks for lessons  _________________ ÀÃäðåé Ãåðà ñèìîâ  |
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Olga �êñïåðò
Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 05.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 97 Îòêóäà: Ã�èãà - ÌîñêâÃ
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ïîíåäåëüíèê, Ìàðòà 29, 2004 9:29am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Olga ïèñàë(à): |
Åùå âîïðîñ çÃà òîêà ì. Êà ê áóäåò ñêà çà òü "Âêëþ÷èòü"/""Âûêëþ÷èòü"? |
Turn on the light
Turn off the light
Turn up the volume
Reduce the volume |
Åñòü åùå âà ðèà Ãòû (è ñî ñâåòîì, è ñî çâóêîì)
Îïÿòü-òà êè Ãåëüçÿ ñêà çà òü îäÃîçÃà ÷Ãî, âñå çà âèñèò îò êîÃòåêñòà .
Êà ê, Ãà ïðèìåð, ôà êñ âêëþ÷èòü. èëè êîìïüþòåð? |
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Olga �êñïåðò
Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 05.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 97 Îòêóäà: Ã�èãà - ÌîñêâÃ
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ïîíåäåëüíèê, Ìàðòà 29, 2004 9:32am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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À ïî÷åìó áû ÃÃ¥ ñêà çà òü ïðîñòî "sit"? Ñ òî÷êè çðåÃèÿ ëîãèêè ïîäîøëî áû è ê òîìó è ê äðóãîìó ñëó÷à þ. Ã�åò, âñå òà êè ñëîâîîáðà çîâà Ãèå - øòóêà ïîä÷à ñ ìà ëîïîÃÿòÃà ÿ. |
Ã�óäåòå óäèâëåÃû, ïðîñòî SIT òîæå ìîæÃî ñêà çà òü. Åñëè ÷åëîâåê óæå ñèäèò è çà äà ÷à âûñêà çûâà Ãèÿ ÃÃ¥ ïîçâîëèòü åìó âñòà òü/ëå÷ü.
ÀÃãëèéñêèé - î÷åÃü ãèáêèé. Ìûñëÿò îÃè ôóÃêöèîÃà ëüÃî. Ñëîâ îòÃîñèòåëüÃî ÃåìÃîãî, Ãî â êîìáèÃà öèÿõ ïîëó÷à åòñÿ äîâîëüÃî ãèáêî ìîæÃî ñêà çà òü. |
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Doxx US Patriot

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 14.06.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 2082 Îòêóäà: Ulyanovsk, Russia
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ïîíåäåëüíèê, Ìàðòà 29, 2004 6:52pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Olga ïèñàë(à): |
Åùå âîïðîñ çÃà òîêà ì. Êà ê áóäåò ñêà çà òü "Âêëþ÷èòü"/""Âûêëþ÷èòü"? |
Turn on the light
Turn off the light
Turn up the volume
Reduce the volume |
Add-on:
Switch on
Switch off _________________ Ñäåëà é ñâîþ ìå÷òó öåëüþ. /Doxx/
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìÃ

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 13.11.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 1539 Îòêóäà: NC, USA
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âòîðíèê, Ìàðòà 30, 2004 1:22am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Guessst ïèñàë(à): |
Turn on the light
Turn off the light
Turn up the volume
Reduce the volume |
Òîãäà óæ turn down the volume. Êîãäà , Ãà ïðèìåð, êîãî-òî ïðîñÿò áûòü ïîòèøå, òî ãîâîðÿò "Could you keep it down, please?". |
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Olga �êñïåðò
Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 05.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 97 Îòêóäà: Ã�èãà - ÌîñêâÃ
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âòîðíèê, Ìàðòà 30, 2004 9:15pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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ÄåéñòâèòåëüÃî, òà ê êà ê ãðîìêîñòü ðà Ãüøå êðóòèëè (ñåé÷à ñ åùå Ãà Ãåêîòîðûõ ïðèåìÃèêà õ îñòà ëîñü êîëåñèêî äëÿ ðåãóëèðîâêè ãðîìêîñòè), ñåé÷à ñ ãîâîðÿò turn it up/turn it down- ñäåëà é ïîãðîì÷å\ïîòèøå.
ÀÃà ëîãè÷Ãî ñ turn it on/off -åñëè ÷òîáû âêëþ÷èòü èëè âûêë÷èòü <name of device>, ÃóæÃî ïîêðóòèòü êîëåñèêî, òîãäà ìû åãî turn on/off.
Êà ê ïðà âèëî, ñâåò âêëþ÷à åòñÿ âûêëþ÷à òåëåì òèïà òóìáëåð. Ù¸ëê è âñå. ÒÓáëåð Ãà çûâà åòñÿ a switch, ñîîòâåòñâåÃÃî, âêëþ÷à åì -â ÷à ñòÃîñòè, ñâåò -switch on\off.
ÒåõÃèêå åùå ìîæÃî äåëà òü shut down.
Î÷åðåäÃîé âîïðîñ (åñëè èÃòåðåñÃî ïðîäîëæà òü, åññÃî
Open a window èëè open the window?
My mom works at a hospital èëè my mom work at the hospital? |
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Andrew Ãëà âÃûé òðåïà ÷

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421 Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âòîðíèê, Ìàðòà 30, 2004 9:51pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Open a window èëè open the window? |
Open the window. But I can’t explain why I think so
P.S. I shared this topic. _________________ ÀÃäðåé Ãåðà ñèìîâ  |
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Slava �ËÎ

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 10.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 4182 Îòêóäà: at this moment Stamford CT
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âòîðíèê, Ìàðòà 30, 2004 11:17pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Open a window èëè open the window? |
Open the window. But I can’t explain why I think so
P.S. I shared this topic. |
I think you can say "open a window" when you don't care wich one will be opened. Just open any window.
If you want to have opened this particular window than you should say "open the window". And probably ention wich one _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
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Andrew Ãëà âÃûé òðåïà ÷

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421 Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, Ìàðòà 31, 2004 4:42am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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Thanks Slava! I understand now. _________________ ÀÃäðåé Ãåðà ñèìîâ  |
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Olga �êñïåðò
Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 05.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 97 Îòêóäà: Ã�èãà - ÌîñêâÃ
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, Ìàðòà 31, 2004 8:42am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Andrew ïèñàë(à): |
| Open a window èëè open the window? |
Ã�ó, â ïðèÃöèïå, âåðÃî, åñëè âû â êîìÃà òå, ãäå îêÃî îäÃî, âûáèðà òü, ñîáññÃî, ÃÃ¥ èç ÷åãî, òîãäà ãîâîðèì open the(=this) window.
À åñëè â à óäèòîðèè Ãà ëåêöèè âà øåé äåâóøêå ñòà ëî äóðÃî, âû ãðîìêî ñêà æåòå open [i]a window [/i]-îêîà îáû÷Ãî Ãåñêîëüêî â áîëüøèõ ïîìåùåÃèÿõ âà ñ ÃÃ¥ âîëÃóåò, êà êîå èìåÃÃî îòêðîþò, ó âà ñ äåâóøêà çà äûõà åòñÿ è áëåäÃååò.
à ÷òî ñ hospital?
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P.S. I shared this topic. |
ÿ áû ñêà çà ëà I 've split the topic.
Shared - äåëèòüñÿ ÷åì-òî ñ êåì-òî. Êâà ðòèðó ìîæÃî share, åñëè âäâîåì ñÃèìà òü, ìîæÃî ÿáëîêî share, ïðîãðà ììû Ãà çûâà þòñÿ shareware, ïîòîìó ÷òî à âòîð êà ê áû äåëèòñÿ ñâîåé ðà áîòîé.
à split - ýòî òèïà ïîïîëà ì ïåðåëîìà òü, ñëîìà òü, ðà çäåëèòü.
Banana Split - â Ã�à ñêèà Ã�îááèÃñå åñòü òà êà ÿ âåùü. î÷åÃü âêóñÃà ÿ! |
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Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421 Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ñðåäà, Ìàðòà 31, 2004 10:05am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Olga ïèñàë(à): |
ÿ áû ñêà çà ëà I 've split the topic.
Shared - äåëèòüñÿ ÷åì-òî ñ êåì-òî. Êâà ðòèðó ìîæÃî share, åñëè âäâîåì ñÃèìà òü, ìîæÃî ÿáëîêî share, ïðîãðà ììû Ãà çûâà þòñÿ shareware, ïîòîìó ÷òî à âòîð êà ê áû äåëèòñÿ ñâîåé ðà áîòîé.
à split - ýòî òèïà ïîïîëà ì ïåðåëîìà òü, ñëîìà òü, ðà çäåëèòü.
Banana Split - â Ã�à ñêèà Ã�îááèÃñå åñòü òà êà ÿ âåùü. î÷åÃü âêóñÃà ÿ! |
Thanks, Olga!
What the difference in words “Couldâ€� and “Canâ€�? Is “Couldâ€� friendlier? I know about it only from practice, but it’s interesting to know theory  _________________ ÀÃäðåé Ãåðà ñèìîâ  |
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