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paCman
Íîâè÷îê
: 20.03.2004
: 10
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| Íà ñêîëüêî ñíèæàåòñÿ øàíñ ïîëó÷èòü âèçó, åñëè áûëà ïîäàíà çàÿâêà íà ó÷àñòèå â Green Card? |
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Àðòåì
Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa
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| Ñìîòðÿ êàêóþ âèçó. |
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paCman
Íîâè÷îê
: 20.03.2004
: 10
: Áåëàðóñü
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| Åñëè ÿ ó÷àñòâóþ â ïðîãðàììå Work & Travel (ò.å. õî÷ó ïîëó÷èòü íåèììèãðàöèîííóþ âèçó) â ýòîì ãîäó è ïîäàë çàÿâêó íà ó÷àñòèå â DV-2005, áóäåò ëè ýòî ðàññìàòðèâàòüñÿ êîíñóëàìè êàê èììèãðàöèîííîå íàìåðåíèå? È íàñêîëüêî ñíèæàåòñÿ âåðîÿòíîñòü ïîëó÷åíèÿ âèçû? |
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Àðòåì
Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa
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| Åñëè ÿ ó÷àñòâóþ â ïðîãðàììå Work & Travel (ò.å. õî÷ó ïîëó÷èòü íåèììèãðàöèîííóþ âèçó) â ýòîì ãîäó è ïîäàë çàÿâêó íà ó÷àñòèå â DV-2005, áóäåò ëè ýòî ðàññìàòðèâàòüñÿ êîíñóëàìè êàê èììèãðàöèîííîå íàìåðåíèå? È íàñêîëüêî ñíèæàåòñÿ âåðîÿòíîñòü ïîëó÷åíèÿ âèçû? |
Íàñ÷åò work&travel ÿ òî÷íî íå çíàþ (ìîæåò áûòü, êòî-íèáóäü åùå ïîäñêàæåò). Âîîáùå, êîíñóëû íåðîâíî äûøàò, åñëè ïðåòåíäóåøü íà íåèììèãðàöèîííóþ âèçó, è äî ýòîãî ó÷àñòâîâàë â ëîòåðåå DV. Äëÿ word&travel êàê ðàç âûäàåòñÿ íåèììèãðàöèîííàÿ âèçà. Òàê ÷òî, ÿ äóìàþ, àôèøèðîâàòü ó÷àñòèå â ëîòåðåå íå ñòîèò.
À íà ïîëó÷åíèå ðàáî÷åé H1-B èëè ëþáîé èììèãðàöèîííîé âèçû, ó÷àñòèå â ëîòåðåå íèêàê íå âëèÿåò.
P.s. Ó êîãî-íèáóäü íà èíòåðâüþ ñïðàøèâàëè, ó÷àñòâîâàëè ëè âû â ëîòåðåå DV? |
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paCman
Íîâè÷îê
: 20.03.2004
: 10
: Áåëàðóñü
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| Òàê ÷òî, ÿ äóìàþ, àôèøèðîâàòü ó÷àñòèå â ëîòåðåå íå ñòîèò. |
À ðàçâå îíè íå ïðîâåðÿþò, ïðèíèìàë ëè ïðåòåíäåíò íà íåèììèãðàöèîííóþ âèçó ó÷àñòèå â DV?
ß ïî÷åìó-òî äóìàë, ÷òî îíè ýòî ïðîâåðÿþò âñåãäà.
ÍÀÐÎÄ, êòî-íèáóäü èìååò äîñòîâåðíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ íà ýòîò ñ÷åò  : : : |
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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| Åñëè ÿ ó÷àñòâóþ â ïðîãðàììå Work & Travel (ò.å. õî÷ó ïîëó÷èòü íåèììèãðàöèîííóþ âèçó) â ýòîì ãîäó è ïîäàë çàÿâêó íà ó÷àñòèå â DV-2005, áóäåò ëè ýòî ðàññìàòðèâàòüñÿ êîíñóëàìè êàê èììèãðàöèîííîå íàìåðåíèå? È íàñêîëüêî ñíèæàåòñÿ âåðîÿòíîñòü ïîëó÷åíèÿ âèçû? |
Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî îíè áóäóò ðàññìàòðèâàòü ýòî êàê èììèãðàöèîííîå íàìåðåíèå.
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| Òàê ÷òî, ÿ äóìàþ, àôèøèðîâàòü ó÷àñòèå â ëîòåðåå íå ñòîèò. |
À ðàçâå îíè íå ïðîâåðÿþò, ïðèíèìàë ëè ïðåòåíäåíò íà íåèììèãðàöèîííóþ âèçó ó÷àñòèå â DV?
ß ïî÷åìó-òî äóìàë, ÷òî îíè ýòî ïðîâåðÿþò âñåãäà.
ÍÀÐÎÄ, êòî-íèáóäü èìååò äîñòîâåðíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ íà ýòîò ñ÷åò : : : |
Íà ýòîò ñ÷åò áûëè êîììåíòàðèè ÷èíîâíèêà èç àìåðèêàíñêîãî ïîñîëüñòâà. Òàê îí ðàçëè÷àë ó÷àñòèå â ëîòåðåå êàê:
1. ïîäàåøü çàÿâêó íà ó÷àñòèå â ëîòåðåå è íèôèãà íå âûèãðûâàåøü. Òèïà òû íè÷åãî íå âûèãðàë è íèêàêèõ ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó ïîñëåäñòâèé.
2. ïîäàåøü çàÿâêó íà ó÷àñòèå â ëîòåðåå è âûèãðûâàåøü. Ïîêà òû íå ïîäïèñàë è íå îòïðàâèë êàêèå-ëèáî çàïîëíåííûå îôèöèàëüíûå áóìàãè â èìèãðàöèîííûé öåíòð - âñå ÎÊ. Íî êàê òîëüêî òû âûðàæàåøü ïèñüìåííî ñâîè èìèãðàöèîííûå íàìåðåíèÿ, òî àâòîìàòîì ïîïàäàåøü â ÷èñëî îáðàòèâøèõñÿ çà èìèãðàöèîííîé âèçîé, íåçàâèñèìî ïîëó÷èøü ñâîþ âèçó èëè íåò.
Òàê ÷òî ñî ñëîâ ÷èíîâíèêà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ïîêà äîêóìåíòû íà èìèãðàöèþ íå çàïîëíèøü è íå ïîäàøü â ïîñîëüñòâî èëè èìèãðàöèîííûé öåíòð, òû íå ÿâëÿåøñÿ îôèöèàëüíî îáðàòèâøèìñÿ çà èìèãðàöèîííîé âèçîé, è òåáå íå ñòîèò ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó ñóåòèòüñÿ.
×òî êàñàåòñÿ ïðîâåðêè íà òâîå ó÷àñòèå â ëîòåðåè, òî îôèöèàëüíî òàêîé áàçû íåò,  è îôèöèàëüíî ïî íåé íèêîãî íå ïðîâåðÿþò. |
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paCman
Íîâè÷îê
: 20.03.2004
: 10
: Áåëàðóñü
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Áîëøîå ñïàñèáî çà èíôîðìàöèþ.  |
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Nikoli
Íîâè÷îê
: 01.02.2006
: 7
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| : , 24, 2006 7:35pm : Re: Íàñêîëüêî âëèÿåò ó÷àñòèå â Green Card íà ïîëó÷åíèå âèçû? |
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| Íà ñêîëüêî ñíèæàåòñÿ øàíñ ïîëó÷èòü âèçó, åñëè áûëà ïîäàíà çàÿâêà íà ó÷àñòèå â Green Card? |
Ìîæåò áûòü ó êîãî òî åñòü ñâåæàÿ èíô. ïî ýòîìó òîïèêó? |
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Jacky
Íîâè÷îê
: 17.10.2004
: 22
: Kharkov, UA->Kiev, UA
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Âîò òàê ôîêóñû. Â÷åðà îñòàâëÿë ñâîå ñîîáùåíèå. Ñåãîäíÿ åãî íåò. Òàêîå âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷òî ìàòðèöà ïåðåçàãðóçèëàñü. Âðîäå â òðåçâîì óìå áûë.
 îáùåì, óâàæàåìûå ñòóäåíòû è âñå æåëàþùèå ïîåõàòü â ÑØÀ, åñëè âû â ïðîøëîì ïîäàâàëè íà ãðèíêàðä, òî ïðî íåýììèãðàöèîííóþ âèçó ìîæíî çàáûòü íà 99%. 1% - ýòî åñëè ó êîíñóëà ïàëüöû êðèâûå, è îí íå óìååò êîìïüþòåðîì ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ. 
Çíàþ ïî îïûòó ìîèõ çíàêîìûõ. Âîò òàê. 
Ïðîñüáà ê êîíñóëàì íå óäàëÿòü ýòî ñîîáùåíèå, òàê êàê îáùàÿ ãðàìîòíîñòü íàñåëåíèÿ óïðîñòèò âàì ðàáîòó. |
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Doxx
US Patriot
: 14.06.2003
: 2082
: Ulyanovsk, Russia
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Èíòåðåñíî êîíå÷íî. ß áû ñêàçàë òàê: Íå èìåþò ïðàâî. Íî...
 áëèæàéøèå N ëåò ïðàâäà íàì, ðîññèÿíàì, ïîèãðàòü â ýòó ëîòåðåþ íå äàäóò ÷óþ
Anyway âñå ýòî ãðóñòíî 
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Ñäåëàé ñâîþ ìå÷òó öåëüþ. /Doxx/ 
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Looma
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
: 20.05.2005
: 80
: Ìîñêâà
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Èíòåðåñíî êîíå÷íî. ß áû ñêàçàë òàê: Íå èìåþò ïðàâî. Íî...
 áëèæàéøèå N ëåò ïðàâäà íàì, ðîññèÿíàì, ïîèãðàòü â ýòó ëîòåðåþ íå äàäóò ÷óþ
Anyway âñå ýòî ãðóñòíî |
ß íà íà íàøåì yahoo, âèäåëà áàííåð ãëàñÿùèé, ÷òî-òî âäóõå "âûèãðàé ãðèí êàðòó ñåãîäíÿ!". Íà ðóññêîì ÿçûêå. Ùåëêíóâ íà íåãî, ïîïàäàåøü íà ñàéò âñåé ýòîé ãàëèìàòüè è ñðåäè ïàëèòðû ÿçûêîâ åñòü ðóññêèé. ß íà ñàìîì äåëå, ñàìà óäèâèëàñü, ò.ê. â êóðñå, ÷òî ãðàæäàíå Ðîññèè, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ðàíüøå, áûëè ëèøåíû ñåãî óäîâîëüñòâèÿ. Âîò òàê âîò. |
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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| Ïðîñüáà ê êîíñóëàì íå óäàëÿòü ýòî ñîîáùåíèå |
Ïðèñîåäèíÿþñü ê ïðîñüáå.
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Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003
: 10421
: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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| ß íà ñàìîì äåëå, ñàìà óäèâèëàñü, ò.ê. â êóðñå, ÷òî ãðàæäàíå Ðîññèè, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå ðàíüøå, áûëè ëèøåíû ñåãî óäîâîëüñòâèÿ. Âîò òàê âîò. |
Ïðèíèìàòü ó÷àñòèå íå ìîãóò íå ãðàæäàíå, à ðîæäåííûå çäåñü.
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Àðòåì
Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa
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| Ïðîñüáà ê êîíñóëàì íå óäàëÿòü ýòî ñîîáùåíèå |
Ïðèñîåäèíÿþñü ê ïðîñüáå. |
À êòî êîíñóëàì ìîäåðàòîðñêèå ïðàâà äàâàë?! Ïðîòåñòóþ!  |
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Looma
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
: 20.05.2005
: 80
: Ìîñêâà
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| Ïðèíèìàòü ó÷àñòèå íå ìîãóò íå ãðàæäàíå, à ðîæäåííûå çäåñü. |
Åñëè ýòî íå øóòêà, òî èç ÷åãî èñõîäèëè ëþäè, ïðèäóìàâøèå ýòîò çàêîí?
Êðèòåðèåâ ðàçëè÷èé ðîæäåííûõ â Ðîññèè è ãðàæäàí Ðîññèè íå òàê óæ ìíîãî, è, êàê ïðàâèëî, îäíî èç äðóãîãî ñëåäóåò. |
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Andrew
Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003
: 10421
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| À êòî êîíñóëàì ìîäåðàòîðñêèå ïðàâà äàâàë?! Ïðîòåñòóþ! |
Ìíå ìóëüòèâèçó íà 80 ëåò ïðåäëîæèëè âçàìåí íà îòêðûòèå ìîäåðàòîðñêèõ ïðàâ ãîñïîäèíó Áåðíñó. ß äóìàë-äóìàë è ðåøèë ñîãëàñèòüñÿ. Íàäåþñü, íèêòî íå îáèäèòñÿ? 
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Helen_NJ
Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003
: 1539
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Will applying for the lottery affect one's ability to receive a nonimmigrant visa?
Probably not. Technically, filing a visa lottery application is equivalent to filing an immigrant petition. According to a source at the Department of State, a consulate will only be notified IF the person is selected in the lottery. An individual who is not chosen is on his honor to state that he/she applied for the lottery. Theoretically, if your name is selected in the lottery, you may have trouble renewing nonimmigrant status while waiting for your name to be cleared for processing (see discussion on the post-selection process for securing a green card). This should only be a temporary problem since permanent residency should eventually be awarded. There is still a risk that you will fail to be deemed eligible for the DV-2007 visa or the Department of State will have overestimated the number of individuals to select in the lottery (see discussion on how the selection process works). However, of all the lawyers with whom I have spoken, none have ever reported a problem with a client having entered the lottery. We have instructed our clients to answer the question on the DS-156 concerning previous immigrant visa applications as follows: "My lawyer entered me in the DV-2007 lottery." We have never had a problem reported and I have yet to hear of anyone denied a visa because of a previous lottery application. |
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Would applying to DV-2007 affect my nonimmigrant visa petition?
No. Filing a diversity visa lottery is equivalent to filing an immigrant petition. The applicant need not specify that he/she has applied for the lottery while applying for a nonimmigrant visa. |
http://greencardlottery.visapro.com/DV-Green-Card-Lottery-FAQ.asp#Q8 |
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Àðòåì
Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003
: 8295
: Russia, Ufa
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| À êòî êîíñóëàì ìîäåðàòîðñêèå ïðàâà äàâàë?! Ïðîòåñòóþ! |
Ìíå ìóëüòèâèçó íà 80 ëåò ïðåäëîæèëè âçàìåí íà îòêðûòèå ìîäåðàòîðñêèõ ïðàâ ãîñïîäèíó Áåðíñó. ß äóìàë-äóìàë è ðåøèë ñîãëàñèòüñÿ. Íàäåþñü, íèêòî íå îáèäèòñÿ? |
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White Owl
Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
: 10.03.2003
: 2452
: USA, New York City
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| À êòî êîíñóëàì ìîäåðàòîðñêèå ïðàâà äàâàë?! Ïðîòåñòóþ! |
Ìíå ìóëüòèâèçó íà 80 ëåò ïðåäëîæèëè âçàìåí íà îòêðûòèå ìîäåðàòîðñêèõ ïðàâ ãîñïîäèíó Áåðíñó. ß äóìàë-äóìàë è ðåøèë ñîãëàñèòüñÿ. Íàäåþñü, íèêòî íå îáèäèòñÿ? |
À êòî òàêîé Áåðíñ? |
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