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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð

: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 11, 2005 1:26pm : Ïñèõîëîãèÿ ìàõðîâîãî ãîïíèêà |
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Êòî õî÷åò ïîñìîòðåòü íà ìûñëè òèïè÷íîãî ñðåäíåãî ãîïíèêà, äîáðî ïîæàëîâàòü ñþäà: http://forum.farit.ru/showthread.php?threadid=30622
Íàä íèì âåñü íåìàëåíüêèé óôèìñêèé ôîðóì óãîðàåò.  îáùåì, ïàðåíü ðåøèë ïîõâàñòàòüñÿ, ÷òî îí íå ïëàòèò â ìàðøðóòêàõ. Ïðèìèòèâíûå ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ î áîãàòñòâå è áåäíîñòè. Ïðîëåòàðèé, â îáùåì. Î÷åíü çàáàâíî, íî è ãðóñòíî. |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 11, 2005 3:06pm : Re: Ïñèõîëîãèÿ ìàõðîâîãî ãîïíèêà |
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Êòî õî÷åò ïîñìîòðåòü íà ìûñëè òèïè÷íîãî ñðåäíåãî ãîïíèêà, äîáðî ïîæàëîâàòü ñþäà: http://forum.farit.ru/showthread.php?threadid=30622
Íàä íèì âåñü íåìàëåíüêèé óôèìñêèé ôîðóì óãîðàåò.  îáùåì, ïàðåíü ðåøèë ïîõâàñòàòüñÿ, ÷òî îí íå ïëàòèò â ìàðøðóòêàõ. Ïðèìèòèâíûå ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ î áîãàòñòâå è áåäíîñòè. Ïðîëåòàðèé, â îáùåì. Î÷åíü çàáàâíî, íî è ãðóñòíî. |
Äà óæ. Òàêèå, êàê îí, â ãîäû êðàñíåíüêîé ðåâîëþöèè öâåò íàöèè ìî÷èë. À â ãîäû Âåëèêîé Îòå÷åñòâåííîé èç-çà ñàïîã "ñâîèõ" â êóñòàõ äóøèë. _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð

: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 11, 2005 5:04pm : Re: Ïñèõîëîãèÿ ìàõðîâîãî ãîïíèêà |
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Äà óæ. Òàêèå, êàê îí, â ãîäû êðàñíåíüêîé ðåâîëþöèè öâåò íàöèè ìî÷èë. À â ãîäû Âåëèêîé Îòå÷åñòâåííîé èç-çà ñàïîã "ñâîèõ" â êóñòàõ äóøèë. |
Äà, ÿ òîæå ïîäóìàë, ÷òî òàêèå ëþäè â íà÷àëå 20-ãî âåêà õîðîøî ïîñïîñîáñòâîâàëè. Ðåâîëþöèþ äåëàòü ó íèõ, êîíå÷íî, óìà áû íå õâàòèëî, íî îíè áûëè "ðóêàìè". |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 13, 2005 10:38am : |
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À êàê âûãëÿäÿò ãîïíèêè â Óôå? Íà þãå Óêðàèíû ýòî áðèòûå ãîëîâû è ñïîðòèâíûå êîñòþìû. Íàâåðíîå, âíåøíîñòü äëÿ ýòîãî ñëîÿ íàñåëåíèÿ â ðàçíûõ ÷àñòÿõ ñâåòà îäèíàêîâà. Âåäü "ïñèõîëîãèÿ ìàõðîâîãî ãîïíèêà" âåçäå îäèíàêîâà  _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷

: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 13, 2005 11:06am : |
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À êàê âûãëÿäÿò ãîïíèêè â Óôå? Íà þãå Óêðàèíû ýòî áðèòûå ãîëîâû è ñïîðòèâíûå êîñòþìû. Íàâåðíîå, âíåøíîñòü äëÿ ýòîãî ñëîÿ íàñåëåíèÿ â ðàçíûõ ÷àñòÿõ ñâåòà îäèíàêîâà. Âåäü "ïñèõîëîãèÿ ìàõðîâîãî ãîïíèêà" âåçäå îäèíàêîâà  |
Óæå òàê äàâíî íå âñòðå÷àë, ÷òî äàæå íå ïîìíþ, êàêèå îíè çäåñü Õîòü áû ïîäâàëèëè, ïîâåñåëèëè ñòàðèêà  _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ  |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 13, 2005 11:24am : |
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Óæå òàê äàâíî íå âñòðå÷àë, ÷òî äàæå íå ïîìíþ, êàêèå îíè çäåñü Õîòü áû ïîäâàëèëè, ïîâåñåëèëè ñòàðèêà  |
Andrew, ïðèÿòíîãî îò òàêèõ âñòðå÷ü ìàëî, ïîâåðü ìíå  _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Doxx US Patriot

: 14.06.2003 : 2082 : Ulyanovsk, Russia
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: , 13, 2005 7:34pm : |
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Ñëàâà áîãó ÿ ïåðåæèë òå âðåìåíà, êîãäà ãîïû ñèäåëè â êàæäîãî ïîäúåçäà, ñòîÿëè íà êàæäîì óãëó. Êåïêè, ÷åòêè, ñåìå÷êè è Òóïàÿ ð...à äàóíà (ëèöîì ýòî íå íàçîâåøü). Èõ ìåíüøå ñòàëî. Íî òàêèõ îòìîðîçêîâ ìîæíî âñòðåòèòü, ïåðåæèòêè ïðîøëîãî âñå-òàêè.
Èíòåðåñíàÿ ñòàòèñòèêà (ñìîòðåë îäíó èç ïåðåäà÷ ïðî ïóòåøåñòâèÿ): NYC ñ÷èòàåòñÿ îäíèì èç ñàìûõ êðèìèíîãåííûõ ãîðîäîâ ìèðà. À ïðåñòóïíîñòü â Ðèî (Áðàçèëèÿ) ïðåâûøàåò ýòîò ïîêàçàòåëü â 10 ðàç! _________________ Ñäåëàé ñâîþ ìå÷òó öåëüþ. /Doxx/
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷

: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 13, 2005 10:36pm : |
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Andrew, ïðèÿòíîãî îò òàêèõ âñòðå÷ü ìàëî, ïîâåðü ìíå  |
Êî ìíå ïàðó ðàç ðàíüøå ïîäõîäèëè – îäèí ðàç äàæå èñïóãàëñÿ... À ñåé÷àñ ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì âñòðåòèëñÿ áû, îòûãðàëñÿ áû çà òîò èñïóã  _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ  |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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Slava ÍËÎ

: 10.03.2003 : 4182 : at this moment Stamford CT
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: , 14, 2005 3:45am : |
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À ìîé Stamford, CT îêàçûâàåòñÿ òîæå âõîäèò â 25 ñàìûõ ñïîêîéíûõ ãîðîäîâ _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð

: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 14, 2005 3:47am : |
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À êàê âûãëÿäÿò ãîïíèêè â Óôå? Íà þãå Óêðàèíû ýòî áðèòûå ãîëîâû è ñïîðòèâíûå êîñòþìû. Íàâåðíîå, âíåøíîñòü äëÿ ýòîãî ñëîÿ íàñåëåíèÿ â ðàçíûõ ÷àñòÿõ ñâåòà îäèíàêîâà. Âåäü "ïñèõîëîãèÿ ìàõðîâîãî ãîïíèêà" âåçäå îäèíàêîâà  |
Áðèòûå (êîðîòêîâîëîñûå) ãîëîâû, êîñòþìû Adidas ñ áëèæàéøåãî êèòàéñêîãî ðûíêà, ÷åðíûå êîæàíûå êóðòêè ñ ïîðåçàìè. Åùå îíè ñèäÿò íà êîðòî÷êàõ â íåïðèëè÷íîé ïîçå. Òèïè÷íûå ôðàçû: "Äàâàé ïîòðåùèì", "À åñëè ïîäóìàòü", "Ñëûøü áðàòèøêà", "Êòî òû ïî æèçíè?", "Ïî êàêèì ïîíÿòèÿì æèâåøü", "Äàâàé ïîãîâîðèì", "Çàêóðèòü åñòü?" è ò.ä.
Èõ ñåé÷àñ ìåíüøå ñòàëî, íî âñå ðàâíî ìíîãî. Òî, ÷òî ìåíüøå èõ çàìå÷àåì... Ïðîñòî ãîïíè÷åñêèé âîçðàñò 14-15 ëåò. Òàê ÷òî, òå, êîìó ñåé÷àñ ëåò 14-15, îò íèõ ñòðàäàþò, íàâåðíîå, íå íàìíîãî ìåíüøå, ÷åì ìû ðàíüøå.
Êî ìíå çà ïîñëåäíèå íåñêîëüêî ëåò ïîäõîäèëè ïàðó ðàç. Íå ñêàæó, ÷òî ýòî ïðèÿòíî, íî â ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ îáõîäèëîñü áåç ïîñëåäñòâèé. Äàæå äåíåã íå äàâàë. Ñèëüíî óäèâëÿëî, ÷òî ïîäõîäÿò êî ìíå, ÷òî ÿ ìàëü÷èê ÷òî ëè. Ñîîòâåòñòâåííûì áûëî è ìîå ïîâåäåíèå (óäèâëåííîå è â âèäå ïîòðåâîæåííîãî ãðóç÷èêàìè äèðåêòîðà)
À âîîáùå îòíîøåíèå ê ãîïîòå èçìåíèëîñü. Ðàíüøå äàæå ñðåäè ãîïîòû íåãëóïûå ëþäè ïîïàäàëèñü, ñåé÷àñ æå âñå, êòî ñ ìîçãàìè, çàðàáàòûâàþò äåíüãè íîðìàëüíûìè ñïîñîáàìè, à ê ãîïîòå â ìîëîäåæíîé ñðåäå îòíîøåíèå ïðåçðèòåëüíîå. Îñîáåííî ñðåäè òîé ìîëîäåæè, êîòîðàÿ â èíåòå òîð÷èò. Äà è ãîïîòà - ýòî êàê ïðàâèëî, àëêîãîëèêè è íàðêîìàíû. |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 18, 2005 7:01am : |
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ó íàñ ãîïîòà ÷àñòî ïîä êåì-íèáóäü õîäèò. Öåëàÿ èåðàðõèÿ ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. Ïðîñòî êàìåííûé âåê êàêîé-òî. Âûïîëíÿþò çàêàçû âûøåñòîÿùèõ ïàõàí÷èêîâ. Ïðèõîäÿò òîëïàìè ïîä øêîëû, óíèâåðñèòåòû. Ýòî æå ïàëåîëèò ïî ìåðêàì ðàçâèòèÿ êðèìèíàëà. Ýäàêèå áàíäôîðìèðîâàíèÿ íåäîðàçâèòûå. _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð

: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 18, 2005 7:54am : |
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| ó íàñ ãîïîòà ÷àñòî ïîä êåì-íèáóäü õîäèò. Öåëàÿ èåðàðõèÿ ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. Ïðîñòî êàìåííûé âåê êàêîé-òî. Âûïîëíÿþò çàêàçû âûøåñòîÿùèõ ïàõàí÷èêîâ. Ïðèõîäÿò òîëïàìè ïîä øêîëû, óíèâåðñèòåòû. Ýòî æå ïàëåîëèò ïî ìåðêàì ðàçâèòèÿ êðèìèíàëà. Ýäàêèå áàíäôîðìèðîâàíèÿ íåäîðàçâèòûå. |
Ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî íå ñòîëüêî ïîä êåì-òî, ñêîëüêî áðàâèðóþò ýòèì, ÷òîáû ïîêàçàòüñÿ êðó÷å, à íà ñàìîì äåëå ýòî íå òàê. Ìàêñèìóì - îíè ïðîñòî øåñòåðêè, êîòîðûõ ðàçìåíÿþò è ïëþíóò íà íèõ ïðè ïåðâîì æå íåîáõîäèìîì ñëó÷àå.
À ñåðüåçíûå áàíäèòû - îíè ñåáÿ ñåðüåçíååå âåäóò. Ýòî óæå íå ãîïíèêè. Ìåëî÷ü ïî êàðìàíàì òûðèòü íå áóäóò. È áóçÿò, òîëüêî åñëè îáêóðÿòñÿ, à íå ïîñòîÿííî. |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 18, 2005 8:19am : |
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äà, áàíäþêàìè èõ íàçâàòü òðóäíî. Áåñïðåäåëüùèêè. à êàê îíè êëàññèôèöèðóþò âñå îáùåñòâî? Êàê íàçûâàþò ëþäåé, òàêèõ, êàê ìû? Ìû âåäü èõ íàçûâàåì "ãîïíèêàìè"... _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð

: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 18, 2005 11:49am : |
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| äà, áàíäþêàìè èõ íàçâàòü òðóäíî. Áåñïðåäåëüùèêè. à êàê îíè êëàññèôèöèðóþò âñå îáùåñòâî? Êàê íàçûâàþò ëþäåé, òàêèõ, êàê ìû? Ìû âåäü èõ íàçûâàåì "ãîïíèêàìè"... |
Íó, òàêèõ, êàê ÿ, îíè íàçûâàþò ëîõàìè. Òîëüêî ìíå ïî áàðàáàíó, äëÿ ìåíÿ îíè íèêàê íå àâòîðèòåòû, è äî èõ ìíåíèÿ ìíå ïî áàðàáàíó àáñîëþòíî. Èáî ëîõ - ýòî ëîïóõ. À âçÿòü ñ ìåíÿ áîëüøå ïÿòè ðóáëåé åùå íå óäàâàëîñü íèêîìó... |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 18, 2005 12:01pm : |
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À ó÷àòñÿ îíè ñîîòâåòñòâåííî â ðîãàòíèêàõ âñÿêèõ? _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð

: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 18, 2005 6:30pm : |
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| À ó÷àòñÿ îíè ñîîòâåòñòâåííî â ðîãàòíèêàõ âñÿêèõ? |
 ñìûñëå, â ðîãàòíèêàõ? ß òàêîãî òåðìèíà íå çíàþ. |
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Doxx US Patriot

: 14.06.2003 : 2082 : Ulyanovsk, Russia
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: , 18, 2005 9:43pm : |
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Ïðèíîøó ñâîè èçâåíåíèÿ çà ëîæíóþ, íåïðîâåðåííóþ ìíîé, èíôîðìàöèþ  _________________ Ñäåëàé ñâîþ ìå÷òó öåëüþ. /Doxx/
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Sticky_Eecky Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 11.04.2005 : 164 : Chicago, IL
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: , 19, 2005 10:15am : |
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Ñëàâà áîãó ÿ ïåðåæèë òå âðåìåíà, êîãäà ãîïû ñèäåëè â êàæäîãî ïîäúåçäà, ñòîÿëè íà êàæäîì óãëó. Êåïêè, ÷åòêè, ñåìå÷êè è Òóïàÿ ð...à äàóíà (ëèöîì ýòî íå íàçîâåøü). Èõ ìåíüøå ñòàëî. Íî òàêèõ îòìîðîçêîâ ìîæíî âñòðåòèòü, ïåðåæèòêè ïðîøëîãî âñå-òàêè.
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ß òîæå äóìàë ó íàñ èõ óæå íåò.... Íåäàâíî òîêà âèäåë òîëïó èç 30 ÷åëîâåê... íåò... íå ÷åëîâåê... ñêîðåå îðêîâ )) Ãóëÿþò òèïà òàê ðåáÿòà) Õîðîøî åùå õîòü â öåíòðå íå ïîÿâëÿþòñÿ îñîáî... _________________ I swear it couldn`t be sweeter, Life`s a bitch. Depending on how u treat her, U might get rich. |
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Antonio Æèòåëü ôîðóìà

: 25.08.2005 : 100 : Ukraine
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: , 20, 2005 8:55am : |
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| À ó÷àòñÿ îíè ñîîòâåòñòâåííî â ðîãàòíèêàõ âñÿêèõ? |
 ñìûñëå, â ðîãàòíèêàõ? ß òàêîãî òåðìèíà íå çíàþ. |
Ýòî íàâåðíîå â Óêðàèíå òàêîé òåðìèí ðàñõîæ. "Ðîãàòíèê"- òåõíèêóì èëè åùå ÏÒÓ. _________________ A road of thousand miles begins with the single step |
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