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Äîáàâëåíî: Ñóááîòà, Àïðåëÿ 24, 2004 10:45am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: The number of words I must know |
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How many words I must know to speak free and completely? I know about 1000 words now. Is it enough? : _________________ You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
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It's not about the quantity of words, it is about your ability to build them coherently into sentences. Here is the number of words that the average American secretary both knows, actively, uses and understands. It not to say that your vocabulary is miniscule. No, simply it is easier to see and evaluate your abilities in relation to others.
"David Crystal, in his 1988 book The English Language
(Penguin), describes a moderately sophisticated approach to the
problem (pp. 44-49). He reports a result for a female office
secretary in her fifties, as follows:
words known well: 30,000
words known vaguely: 8,000
words used often: 16,000
words used occasionally: 15,000"
According to others, the average American knows anywhere from 10,000 to 15,000 words. |
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�ÅËÊÀ �îâè÷îê

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 26.11.2004 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 12 Îòêóäà: St. Pete
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ÃÃ¥ ñìîãëà ïðîéòè ìèìî...
| Darien Fawkes ïèñàë(à): |
How many words I must know to speak free and completely? I know about 1000 words now. Is it enough? : |
ïðîñòèòå, Ãî ñóäÿ ïî òîìó êà ê Âû èçëà ãà åòå Ãà à Ããëèéñêîì, òîé òûñÿ÷è, êîòîðóþ çÃà åòå Âû, ßÂÃ�ÃŽ ÃÃ¥ äîñòà òî÷Ãî, ÷òîáû à äåêâà òÃî ðåà ãèðîâà òü Ãà ñèòóà öèþ. Âà ì ñòîèòü ïîïîëÃèòü ñëîâà ðÃûé çà ïà ñ êà ê ìèÃèìóì â äâà ðà çà , ÷òîáû õîòÿ áû ïðåññó ÷èòà òü (ýòî ñòà òèñòèêà ) .
Êóïèòå, äëÿ Ãà ÷à ëà , ñëîâà ðü, òûñÿ÷ Ãà 50 ñëîâ, æåëà òåëüÃî ìîÃîÿçû÷Ãûé. Ã�åðèòå Ãà âîîðóæåÃèå ïîñëîâèöû è ïîãîâîðêè, èäèîìû è îáîãîùà éòå ñâîþ ðå÷ü. ÈÃà ÷å áóäåòå êà ê Ã�ëëî÷êà ...
çû îáèäåòü ÃÃ¥ õîòåëà , ê òîìó æå ïîñò äà âÃèé, Ãî ÒÀÊÀß Ãà èâÃîñòü ïðîñòî ïîðà æà åò, ÃÃ¥ ñìîãëà ïðîéòè ìèìî _________________ If things were to be done twice, all would be wise!
Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü: Ã�ÅËÊÀ (Ïîíåäåëüíèê, Íîÿáðÿ 29, 2004 9:53pm), âñåãî ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü 1 ðàç |
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ïÿòíèöà, Íîÿáðÿ 26, 2004 8:43pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìÃ

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 13.11.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 1539 Îòêóäà: NC, USA
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Ã�à ç óæ ïîäÃÿëè ñòà ðóþ òåìó - IMHO ãëà âÃîå ÃÃ¥ êîëè÷åñòâî ñëîâ, à êà êèå ñëîâà çÃà åøü è êà ê óìååøü ñ Ãèìè îáðà ùà òüñÿ. Âîîáùå ìîé ïà ïà â ñâîé êîðîòêèé ïðèåçä ìóäðî çà ìåòèë, ÷òî â ÑØÀ ìîæÃî óñïåøÃî îáùà òüñÿ ñ ïîìîùüþ âñåãî ëèøü "no", "shit" è "OK".  |
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FFresh Æèòåëü ôîðóìÃ

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 13.11.2004 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 470 Îòêóäà: Moscow
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ñóááîòà, Íîÿáðÿ 27, 2004 6:33am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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Slava �ËÎ

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Ã�à ç óæ ïîäÃÿëè ñòà ðóþ òåìó - IMHO ãëà âÃîå ÃÃ¥ êîëè÷åñòâî ñëîâ, à êà êèå ñëîâà çÃà åøü è êà ê óìååøü ñ Ãèìè îáðà ùà òüñÿ. Âîîáùå ìîé ïà ïà â ñâîé êîðîòêèé ïðèåçä ìóäðî çà ìåòèë, ÷òî â ÑØÀ ìîæÃî óñïåøÃî îáùà òüñÿ ñ ïîìîùüþ âñåãî ëèøü "no", "shit" è "OK".  |
What about fcuk? Btw there is a company in englang that makes close to wear with this brandname. FCUK. How would you read it if you'll see it?
I have a lot of their stuff. T-shirs for example have some slogans like "FCUK IT" or "The best FCUK ever" or "SEX, Drugs and FCUK Roll"  _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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FCUK? Ã�îõîæå Ãà FAQ
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-Yeah, and FAQ you too. |
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Slava �ËÎ

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 10.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 4182 Îòêóäà: at this moment Stamford CT
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Íîÿáðÿ 28, 2004 3:08am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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FCUK? Ã�îõîæå Ãà FAQ
-FAQ?
-Yeah, and FAQ you too. |
What are you talking about?
I mentioned F*CK. it's used a lot here. May be not in the magazines _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
Expirience comes from bad judgment |
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Íîÿáðÿ 28, 2004 3:36am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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FCUK? Ã�îõîæå Ãà FAQ
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-Yeah, and FAQ you too. |
What are you talking about?
I mentioned F*CK. it's used a lot here. May be not in the magazines |
It is a joke from My Computer Hates Me. FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) sounds somewhat similar to F*CK. That's it. |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìÃ

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 13.11.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 1539 Îòêóäà: NC, USA
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Íîÿáðÿ 28, 2004 4:06am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| What about fcuk? Btw there is a company in englang that makes close to wear with this brandname. FCUK. How would you read it if you'll see it? |
FCUK (brandname) = French Connection United Kingdom. It's pronounced "ýô ñè þ êåé". |
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Slava �ËÎ

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Äîáàâëåíî: Âîñêðåñåíüå, Íîÿáðÿ 28, 2004 6:40am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| What about fcuk? Btw there is a company in englang that makes close to wear with this brandname. FCUK. How would you read it if you'll see it? |
FCUK (brandname) = French Connection United Kingdom. It's pronounced "ýô ñè þ êåé". |
I know:) I like that brand. They make cool stuff to wear.
It's just everybody reads the label first time not as it written _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
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�ÅËÊÀ �îâè÷îê

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 26.11.2004 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 12 Îòêóäà: St. Pete
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ïîíåäåëüíèê, Íîÿáðÿ 29, 2004 10:03pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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... ìîé ïà ïà â ñâîé êîðîòêèé ïðèåçä ìóäðî çà ìåòèë, ÷òî â ÑØÀ ìîæÃî óñïåøÃî îáùà òüñÿ ñ ïîìîùüþ âñåãî ëèøü "no", "shit" è "OK".  |
Helen, âû ïîÃèìà åòå, ÷åëîâåê ÑÅÃ�ܨÇÃ�ÃŽ ñïðà øèâà åò "ñêîëüêî ñëîâ Ãà äî çÃà òü, ÷òîáû..." :air:
Ñåìü òûñÿ÷ ÷åòûðåñòî òðèäöà òü âîñåìü, èç Ãèõ 282 ä. á. Ãà áóêâó "A", 304 - Ãà áóêâó "Â", 259 - Ãà áóêâó "Ñ" and so on... _________________ If things were to be done twice, all would be wise!
Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü: Ã�ÅËÊÀ (Ïîíåäåëüíèê, Íîÿáðÿ 29, 2004 10:12pm), âñåãî ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü 1 ðàç |
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�ÅËÊÀ �îâè÷îê

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 26.11.2004 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 12 Îòêóäà: St. Pete
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Äîáàâëåíî: Ïîíåäåëüíèê, Íîÿáðÿ 29, 2004 10:09pm Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: Re: The number of words I must know |
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How many words I must know to speak free and completely? I know about 1000 words now. Is it enough? : |
À âà ì, ñîáñòâåÃÃî, õâà òà åò? Âà ñ ïîÃèìà þò?..
Åñëè ñîáåðåòåñü åùå ãäå-Ãèáóäü ñïðîñèòü, çà ìåÃèòå õîòÿ áû free and completely Ãà fairly well, fluently, be good at English è èæå ñ Ãèìè. _________________ If things were to be done twice, all would be wise! |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìÃ

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 13.11.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 1539 Îòêóäà: NC, USA
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Äîáàâëåíî: Âòîðíèê, Íîÿáðÿ 30, 2004 1:56am Çàãîëîâîê ñîîáùåíèÿ: |
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| Helen, âû ïîÃèìà åòå, ÷åëîâåê ÑÅÃ�ܨÇÃ�ÃŽ ñïðà øèâà åò "ñêîëüêî ñëîâ Ãà äî çÃà òü, ÷òîáû..." :air: |
Äà ÷åãî âû òà ê ðà çâîëÃîâà ëèñü? Òîïèê-òî ñòà ðûé, åùå ñ à ïðåëÿ - ìîæåò òîãî ÷åëîâåêà ñ Ãà ìè óæå è Ãåò (â ñìûñëå Ãà ôîðóìå)... Êñòà òè, â Oxford Dictionary for English Learners Ãà ïîëÃîì ñåðüåçå â êîÃöå åñòü ñïèñîê ñëîâ, êîòîðûå òèïà "äîëæåà çÃà òü êà æäûé". ß, ïðà âäà , èõ ÃÃ¥ ñ÷èòà ëà , Ãî ïîõîæå, ÷òî òà ì äà æå ìåÃüøå òûñÿ÷è áóäåò.
ÌåÃÿ âîò áîëüøå óäèâëÿåò, ÷òî ÃÃ¥ ëåÃü ÷åëîâåêó ïåðåñ÷èòûâà òü, ñêîëüêî ñëîâ çÃà åò. Òà êîå áû ðâåÃèå äà Ãà áëà ãîå äåëî...  |
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Þëå÷êèÃà Ñåñòðà Ã�îâè÷îê

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 04.04.2009 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 18 Îòêóäà: Russia
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2,500 - 3,000 ñëîâ à êòèâÃîãî çà ïà ñà äîëæåà çÃà òü ïåðåâîä÷èê. Ã�à çäåëèòå ýòî ïðèìåðÃî Ãà 3 è ýòîãî áóäåò äîñòà òî÷Ãî äëÿ ïðîñòîãî "ïîëüçîâà òåëÿ". Òî åñòü îêîëî 1,000 ñëîâ _________________
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðà òîð

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| 2,500 - 3,000 ñëîâ à êòèâÃîãî çà ïà ñà äîëæåà çÃà òü ïåðåâîä÷èê. Ã�à çäåëèòå ýòî ïðèìåðÃî Ãà 3 è ýòîãî áóäåò äîñòà òî÷Ãî äëÿ ïðîñòîãî "ïîëüçîâà òåëÿ". Òî åñòü îêîëî 1,000 ñëîâ |
Ã�îãà òûé ñëîâà ðÃûé çà ïà ñ âñ¸ ðà âÃî Ãèêîìó ÃÃ¥ ïîìåøà åò. Ã�ó è åùå ñìîòðÿ äëÿ êà êèõ öåëåé. Ó ìåÃÿ åñòü äèñê "Êóðñ ÈëîÃû Äà âûäîâîé". È òà ì äîâîëüÃî òîëêîâûå óðîêè.  èÃñòðóêöèè Ãà ïèñà Ãî, ÷òî ïîñëå ïðîñëóøèâà Ãèÿ 18 óðîêîâ (30-60 ìèÃóò êà æäûé) ïî 20 ðà ç ó ïîëüçîâà òåëÿ áóäåò ñëîâà ðÃûé çà ïà ñ â 500 ñëîâ è óìåÃèå ýòè ñëîâà ïðèåÃÿòü. Ñóäÿ ïî äâóì óðîêà ì, ýòî ïðà âäà .
Ã�î ñóäÿ ïî ïðåäëîæåÃÃûì òåìà ì, ýòîãî õâà òèò äëÿ áåñïðîáëåìÃîãî áûòîâîãî îáùåÃèÿ, Ãî ìîæåò ÃÃ¥ õâà òèòü äëÿ èÃòåðâüþ Ãà äîëæÃîñòü ïðîãðà ììèñòà , Ãà ïðèìåð. Õîòÿ ÿ ÃÃ¥ áûë Ãà à ìåðèêà Ãñêîì èÃòåðâüþ, Ãî ïî-ðóññêè Ãà ìÃîãèå âà æÃûå âîïðîñû ëþáëþ îòâå÷à òü ðà çâåðÃóòî.  |
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Slava �ËÎ

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À êà ê âîîáùå ëþäè ïîäñ÷èòûâà þò ñêîëüêî ñëîâ îÃè çÃà þò è ñêîëüêî èñïîëüçóþò? _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
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Andrew Ãëà âÃûé òðåïà ÷

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 01.03.2003 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 10421 Îòêóäà: Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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| À êà ê âîîáùå ëþäè ïîäñ÷èòûâà þò ñêîëüêî ñëîâ îÃè çÃà þò è ñêîëüêî èñïîëüçóþò? |
ÃŒÃÃ¥ òîæå âñåãäà èÃòåðåñÃî áûëî  _________________ ÀÃäðåé Ãåðà ñèìîâ  |
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Þëå÷êèÃà Ñåñòðà Ã�îâè÷îê

Çàðåãèñòðèðîâàí: 04.04.2009 Ñîîáùåíèÿ: 18 Îòêóäà: Russia
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Ãó, äëÿ ýòîãî ëèãâèñòû ïðîâîäÿò ñïåöèà ëüÃûå èññëåäîâà Ãèÿ, ñîçäà þò îïðîñû. ÃŽÃè óæå äà âÃî ïîäñ÷èòà ëè, ÷òî õîðîøèé ïåðåâîä÷èê äîëæåà âëà äåòü 3,000 ñëîâ. Êîëè÷åñòâî ñëîâ Ãà èÃîñòðà ÃÃîì ÿçûêå óçÃà òü ÃÃ¥ òà ê ñëîæÃî (ïðèáëèçèòåëüÃî, äëÿ ñåáÿ). Åñëè âû ìîæåòå ãîâîðèòü ðà çâåðÃóòî, ñî ñëîæÃîïîä÷èÃÃ¥ÃÃûìè êîÃñòðóêöèÿìè, ïðè ýòîì èñïîëüçóÿ áîãà òóþ ëåêñèêó, ðà çÃîîáðà çÃóþ, ïî øèðîêîìó ðÿäó òåì, òî çÃà åòå âû 1,500 ñëîâ òà ê òî÷Ãî. _________________
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