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Ïðåäëàãàþ âàøåìó âíèìàíèþ ìîé ïåðâûé îïûò â ñîñòàâëåíèè ðåçþìå äëÿ ïîèñêà ðàáîòîäàòåëÿ (H1) â ÑØÀ.
Çäåñü äâà ðåçþìå ïî äâóì èíòåðåñóþùèì ìåíÿ âàêàíñèÿì: æóðíàëèñòà è âåáìàñòåðà (êîäåðà).
Ìîæåòå ïèíàòü ìåíÿ ðóãàòü, íî åùå ëó÷øå — ïîìîãèòå ñäåëàòü èç ýòèõ ðåçþìå òî, íà ÷òî êëþíåò ïîòåíöèàëüíûé ðàáîòîäàòåëü!
Yanis G. Fikhter
Address: 16-33, Igoshina Str.,
Irkutsk, 664074, Russia
Phone: +7 (902) 171-6328; +7 (3952) 411-881
E-mail: jan@fichter.ru
Personal information: Male, single, no children.
Date of birth: April 16, 1980
OBJECTIVE: Seeking a position in the field of journalism. Writing or editing position. Assistant of editor.
WORK EXPERIENCE:
June - December 2008, Editor in Chief, monthly magazine “My own home”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Finding of qualified staff, the development of the magazine, promotion, financial planning. Researching, writing and editing of articles and columns on diverse, business, technology, social, lifestyle and especially buildings construction topics. Making contracts with advertisers. Achievements: The magazine became profitable. There were a lot of advertisers.
November 2007 - June 2008, Editor in Chief, monthly magazine “Magazine Cottage”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Finding of qualified staff, the development and promotion of the magazine, writing and editing articles on construction and design topics. Making interviews with famous people in the city. Achievements: The magazine has become one of the most recognizable in the city.
April 2005 - August 2007, Editor (Deputy Chief), online newspaper “Baikal Info”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Professional writing and editing of articles on politics, economy, society, sport topics etc. Creating content of web sites and mobile devices. Researching of illustrations, making collages. Writing digest and articles for newspapers. Won a competition to create a design for the site of the newspaper “All ads of Irkutsk”.
June - August 2004, Technician, Justice System Centre “Garant Service”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Installation and maintenance of software. Making contracts with corporate clients. Monitoring the timeliness of payment.
December 2002 - May 2004, Casino dealer, Casino “Old Century”, Casino “Imperial”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Making games with casino visitors, explaining the rules of the game in poker, black jack, roulette, etc. Quick calculate of payments. Customer service skills.
June 2001 - August 2002, Customer service representative, Institute of Economics of Irkutsk State Technical University, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Installation and maintenance of software. Repair of computers. Monitoring the order in the class room. Training users to work with computers.
August 1997 - March 1998, Manager of marketing department, Resort Condominium International (RCI), Tourist company “Vikom & Link Marketing LTD.”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Management of the marketing department. Promotion of tourism services in the city. Invitation of clients and making presentations of resorts.
EDUCATION: September 1998 - June 2003, Bachelor of Science, law. Institute of Economics of Irkutsk State Technical University, Irkutsk, Russia.
INTERNSHIPS: July - August 2000, participated in exchange student project “Russia 2000”, in which visited seminars in Goethe University in the Frankfort on the Main (Germany).
SKILLS: Microsoft Office. Excellent knowledge of Adobe Photoshop, Corel Draw, InDesign, Quark XPress. Skills of web design, HTML, CSS and PHP-programming. Basic knowledge of MySQL. Fluent English, knowledge of German, native Russian.
REFERENCES: Available upon request. _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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OBJECTIVE: Seeking a position in the field of web design. Coder, webmaster
WORK EXPERIENCE:
2006 - 2009, Freelancer, Making websites for several organizations and private persons to measure.
June - December 2008, Editor in Chief, monthly magazine “My own home”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Finding of qualified staff, the development of the magazine, promotion, financial planning. Researching, writing and editing of articles and columns on diverse, business, technology, social, lifestyle and especially buildings construction topics. Making contracts with advertisers. Achievements: The magazine became profitable. There were a lot of advertisers.
November 2007 - June 2008, Editor in Chief, monthly magazine “Magazine Cottage”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Finding of qualified staff, the development and promotion of the magazine, writing and editing articles on construction and design topics. Making interviews with famous people in the city. Achievements: The magazine has become one of the most recognizable in the city.
April 2005 - August 2007, Editor (Deputy Chief), online newspaper “Baikal Info”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Professional writing and editing of articles on politics, economy, society, sport topics etc. Creating content of web sites and mobile devices. Researching of illustrations, making collages. Writing digest and articles for newspapers. Won a tender to create a design for the site of the newspaper “All ads of Irkutsk”. Made a html coding for this site.
June - August 2004, Technician, Justice System Centre “Garant Service”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Installation and maintenance of software. Making contracts with corporate clients. Monitoring the timeliness of payment.
June 2001 - August 2002, Customer service representative, Institute of Economics of Irkutsk State Technical University, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Installation and maintenance of software. Repair of computers. Monitoring the order in the class room. Training users to work with computers.
August 1997 - March 1998, Manager of marketing department, Resort Condominium International (RCI), Tourist company “Vikom & Link Marketing LTD.”, Irkutsk, Russia. Main duties: Management of the marketing department. Promotion of tourism services in the city. Invitation of clients and making presentations of resorts.
EDUCATION: September 1998 - June 2003, Bachelor of Science, law. Institute of Economics of Irkutsk State Technical University, Irkutsk, Russia.
INTERNSHIPS: July - August 2000, participated in exchange student project “Russia 2000”, in which visited seminars in Goethe University in the Frankfort on the Main (Germany).
SKILLS: Microsoft Office. Excellent knowledge of Adobe Photoshop, Corel Draw, InDesign, Quark XPress. Skills of web design, HTML (hand-coding), CSS and PHP-programming, JavaScript, AJAX, Flash/ActionScript and XML. Basic knowledge of MySQL. There is a portfolio of finished works. Fluent English, knowledge of German, native Russian.
REFERENCES: Available upon request. _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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1) Ñ ïî÷òîâûì àäðåñîì âûïåíäðèâàòüñÿ ñîâñåì íåîáÿçàòåëüíî. Äåëî âêóñà, êîíå÷íî, íî ïî ñòàíäàðòàì ïîëîæåíî ïèñàòü ñîâñåì íå òàê. Íå âåðèòå ìíå - ïîñìîòðèòå êàê ïðåäëàãàåò îôîðìèòü âàø àäðåñ ñåðâèñ íà ñàéòå àäðåñíîãî äîêòîðà:
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Ul. Igoshina 16-33
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Irkutskaya Obl.
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2) Çíàê ïëþñà â òåëåôîíå ëó÷øå çàìåíèòü íà àìåðèêàíñêîå 011. Ñåðü¸çíî. Çàäîðíîâ íå äàñò ñîâðàòü.
3) Äàòó ðîæäåíèÿ, ïîë ïèñàòü ÍÅ ÏÐÈÍßÒÎ. Ýòî ñåðü¸çíî ïëîõî, ïîòîìó êàê ðàáîòîäàòåëè íå èìåþò ïðàâà äèñêðèìèíèðîâàòü ïî ïîëó èëè âîçðàñòó. Ñåìåéíîå ïîëîæåíèå ëó÷øå ëèáî óáðàòü ñîâñåì, ëèáî óáðàòü â êîíåö.  èäåàëå - îñòàâèòü òîëüêî â òîì ñëó÷àå, åñëè ýòî êàê-òî ñâÿçàíî ñ âàøåé ïðîôåññèåé (ñêàæåì, æóðíàëèñò ìíîãî ïóòåøåñòâîâàòü äîëæåí, ïîýòîìó çäåñü ýòî ðåëåâàíòíî)
4) Åñòü êàêàÿ-òî ïðè÷èíà, ïî÷åìó achievements åñòü â äâóõ ïóíêòàõ îïûòà è íåò â îñòàëüíûõ? "There were a lot of advertisers. " çâó÷èò êàê-òî ìóðçèëêîïîäîáíî.
5) Ïðîôåññèîíàëüíåå, êîãäà âåñü îïûò íàïèñàí â îäíîì ñòèëå, ò.å. ëèáî ãëàãîëû (óáèðàë, ÷èñòèë), ëèáî ñóùåñòâèòåëüíûå (óáîðêà, ÷èñòêà). À ó âàñ "Quick calculate", à ïîòîì "Monitoring", "Training"[/quote] |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Coder - çäåñü ïîä ýòèì ïîäðàçóìåâàåòñÿ ñêîðåå ÷åëîâåê, çàíèìàþùèéñÿ ìåäèöèíñêèì áèëëèíãîì, ÷åì òî, ÷òî ó âàñ. Íàïèøèòå ïî-äðóãîìó - developer, programmer åòö.
Èíòåðåñíî, êîíå÷íî, ÷òî â ÷àñòè îïûòà ðåçþìå èäåíòè÷íû, íó äà ëàäíî.
"There is a portfolio of finished works." - òîæå ìóðçèëêîïîäîáíî. ß áû ëèáî äàë ññûëêó ïðÿì òàì, ëèáî íàïèñàë êàê ñ references. |
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ßí Ôèõòåð Ñóïåð-ïóïåð ìåãà-îôôòîïùèê
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1) Ñ ïî÷òîâûì àäðåñîì âûïåíäðèâàòüñÿ ñîâñåì íåîáÿçàòåëüíî. |
Ñïàñèáî çà öåííûå óêàçàíèÿ ))) Ïðèìó ê ñâåäåíèþ )))
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2) Çíàê ïëþñà â òåëåôîíå ëó÷øå çàìåíèòü íà àìåðèêàíñêîå 011. Ñåðü¸çíî. Çàäîðíîâ íå äàñò ñîâðàòü. |
Ëþáîïûòíî, à ÷òî ìèñòåð Çàäîðíîâ ãîâîðèò ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó?
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3) Äàòó ðîæäåíèÿ, ïîë ïèñàòü ÍÅ ÏÐÈÍßÒÎ. Ýòî ñåðü¸çíî ïëîõî, ïîòîìó êàê ðàáîòîäàòåëè íå èìåþò ïðàâà äèñêðèìèíèðîâàòü ïî ïîëó èëè âîçðàñòó. Ñåìåéíîå ïîëîæåíèå ëó÷øå ëèáî óáðàòü ñîâñåì, ëèáî óáðàòü â êîíåö.  èäåàëå - îñòàâèòü òîëüêî â òîì ñëó÷àå, åñëè ýòî êàê-òî ñâÿçàíî ñ âàøåé ïðîôåññèåé (ñêàæåì, æóðíàëèñò ìíîãî ïóòåøåñòâîâàòü äîëæåí, ïîýòîìó çäåñü ýòî ðåëåâàíòíî) |
Îê ))
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4) Åñòü êàêàÿ-òî ïðè÷èíà, ïî÷åìó achievements åñòü â äâóõ ïóíêòàõ îïûòà è íåò â îñòàëüíûõ? |
Õì. íàâåðíîå ïîòîìó, ÷òî â äðóãèõ îáëàñòÿõ ó ìåíÿ äîñòèæåíèé áûëî ãîðàçäî ìåíüøå
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5) Ïðîôåññèîíàëüíåå, êîãäà âåñü îïûò íàïèñàí â îäíîì ñòèëå, ò.å. ëèáî ãëàãîëû (óáèðàë, ÷èñòèë), ëèáî ñóùåñòâèòåëüíûå (óáîðêà, ÷èñòêà). À ó âàñ "Quick calculate", à ïîòîì "Monitoring", "Training" |
Õîðîøî. Ïåðåäàëàþ. ñïàñèáî! _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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provik Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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èìõî, âî âòîðîì ðåçþìå â SKILLS íà ïåðâîå ìåñòî ñòîèò ïîñòàâèòü php èòï, à ïîòîì óæå âñå îôèñû-øìîôèñû |
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èìõî, âî âòîðîì ðåçþìå â SKILLS íà ïåðâîå ìåñòî ñòîèò ïîñòàâèòü php èòï, à ïîòîì óæå âñå îôèñû-øìîôèñû |
Ëîãè÷íî… Ñïàñèáî! _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Ëþáîïûòíî, à ÷òî ìèñòåð Çàäîðíîâ ãîâîðèò ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó? |
Îí ïî ëþáîìó ïîâîäó ãîâîðèò îäíî è òî æå: "ÍÓ ÒÓÏÛÅ!". ![Neutral](images/smiles/icon_neutral.gif) |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Àäðåñ è òåëåôîí ìîæíî îñòàâèòü êàê åñòü, íå êðèòè÷íî, ÿ ñàì ïèñàë òåëåôîí ñ ïëþñîì, ýòî äàâíî óæå ñòàíäàðä. Ïåðñîíàëüíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ è äàòó ðîæäåíèÿ - nafique. Íî ýòî âñå öâåòî÷êè.
ßãîäêè ñîñòîÿò â òîì ÷òî îáà ðåçþìå íà ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûå ïîçèöèè íå òÿíóò. Æóðíàëèñò èëè ðåäàêòîð - ñ òàêèì àíãëèéñêèì êàê â ðåçþìå - íåðåàëüíî. Ïî ïîâîäó ïðîãðàìèñòñêîãî ðåçþìå - skills íå ïîäòâåðæäåíû îïûòîì ðàáîòû - ñîîòâåòñòâåííî äëÿ ðàáîòîäàòåëÿ èõ íåò. Ñóäÿ ïî work experience òû íè äíÿ íå ïðîðàáîòàë ñ web design, HTML (hand-coding), CSS and PHP-programming, JavaScript, AJAX, Flash/ActionScript and XML.
Îïèñàíèÿ ïîçèöèé íå ñîîòâåòñòâóþò äîëæíîñòÿì. Íå ìîæåò technician "Making contracts with corporate clients. Monitoring the timeliness of payment." Whatever "making contracts" may mean.
Manager of marketing department <...> Main duties: Management of the marketing department. - ýòî äåòñêèé ñàä.
Àíãëèéñêèé - äëÿ ðåçþìå íå òÿíåò. ß äóìàþ ëó÷øèé ñïîñîá ïî ïîâîäó åãî óëó÷øåíèÿ - ýòî copy-paste ñ ðåçþìå àìåðèêàíöåâ, ïîêóñî÷íî, åñòåñòâåííî, òîëüêî òî ÷òî ïîäõîäèò. _________________
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûå êà÷åñòâà ÿ êîììåíòèðîâàòü íå ñòàíó, à âîò ñòàæèðîâêè ÿ áû ïåðåïèñàë áåç ïîäðîáíîñòåé:
INTERNSHIPS: July - August 2000, Goethe University in the Frankfort on the Main (Germany). |
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ßãîäêè ñîñòîÿò â òîì ÷òî îáà ðåçþìå íà ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûå ïîçèöèè íå òÿíóò. Æóðíàëèñò èëè ðåäàêòîð - ñ òàêèì àíãëèéñêèì êàê â ðåçþìå - íåðåàëüíî. |
ß ýòî ïðåêðàñíî ïîíèìàþ! ×òî êàñàåòñÿ æóðíàëèñòèêè, òî çäåñü áåçóñëîâíî íåîáõîäèì îòëè÷íûé àíãëèéñêèé. ß ýòèì ïîêà ïîõâàñòàòüñÿ íå ìîãó. Òî åñòü, äëÿ Ðîññèè ìîè çíàíèÿ ìîãóò ñ÷èòàòüñÿ âïîëíå ïðèåìëèìûìè, íî íå äëÿ ÑØÀ. ß ýòî çíàþ, ïîýòîìó íà ïåðâûõ ïîðàõ ãîòîâ áûòü ïðîñòî àññèñòåíòîì, íåñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî êîãäà-òî áûë ãëàâíûì ðåäàêòîðîì. Ãîòîâ ïðèíîñèòü áóìàãè è ò.ä... íà÷èíàòü ñ íóëÿ... À òàì ãëÿäèøü è ïîäíèìåòîñÿ óðîâåíü ÿçíàíèÿ ÿçûêà è ìîæíî áóäåò ïðåòåíäîâàòü íà ÷òî-òî áîëåå êîíêðåòíîå.  êîíöå êîíöîâ, êòî èç âàñ ìîæåò ïîõâàñòàòüñÿ òåì, ÷òî îòëè÷íî çíàë ÿçûê äî òîãî êàê ïîïàë â ÑØÀ? Áîëüøèíñòâî îñâàèâàëè åãî íà ìåñòå...
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Ïî ïîâîäó ïðîãðàìèñòñêîãî ðåçþìå - skills íå ïîäòâåðæäåíû îïûòîì ðàáîòû - ñîîòâåòñòâåííî äëÿ ðàáîòîäàòåëÿ èõ íåò. Ñóäÿ ïî work experience òû íè äíÿ íå ïðîðàáîòàë ñ web design, HTML (hand-coding), CSS and PHP-programming, JavaScript, AJAX, Flash/ActionScript and XML.
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Åäèíñòâåííîå, ÷åì ìîãó ïîõâàñòàòüñÿ â ýòîé îáëàñòè ýòî ôðèëàíñ. Äåëàþ ñàéòû íà çàêàç.
Äà, ÿ íå ïðîðàáîòàë íè äíÿ ïðîãðàììèñòîì îôèöèàëüíî, íî ýòî íå çíà÷èò, ÷òî ÿ íå óìåþ ýòî äåëàòü! Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ðàáîòîäàòåëþ ýòîãî íå îáúÿñíèøü... Êàê òîãäà áûòü? Ðàñïèñûâàòü ïî ïîçèöèÿì êîãäà êîìó è êàêèå ñàéòû ÿ äåëàë?
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Àíãëèéñêèé - äëÿ ðåçþìå íå òÿíåò. ß äóìàþ ëó÷øèé ñïîñîá ïî ïîâîäó åãî óëó÷øåíèÿ - ýòî copy-paste ñ ðåçþìå àìåðèêàíöåâ, ïîêóñî÷íî, åñòåñòâåííî, òîëüêî òî ÷òî ïîäõîäèò. |
Ñïàñèáî çà êîíñòðóêòèâíóþ êðèòèêó. À ìîæíî ïîèíòåðåñîâàòüñÿ ÷òî èìåííî â ìîåì ðåçþìå íàâåëî íà ìûñëü î ìîåì not perfect English? _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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ß ýòî çíàþ, ïîýòîìó íà ïåðâûõ ïîðàõ ãîòîâ áûòü ïðîñòî àññèñòåíòîì, íåñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî êîãäà-òî áûë ãëàâíûì ðåäàêòîðîì. Ãîòîâ ïðèíîñèòü áóìàãè è ò.ä... íà÷èíàòü ñ íóëÿ... |
ßí, êàê òû íàïèñàë âûøå, òû ïðåòåíäóåøü íà ðàáî÷óþ âèçó. Äàæå åñëè îñòàâèòü â ñòîðîíå âîïðîñ òîãî, ÷òî î÷åíü ñîìíèòåëüíî, íàíèìàþò ëè êàêèå-íèáóäü ðåäàêöèè æóðíàëèñòîâ íà H1, íóæíî, ÷òîáû ïðè ïîäãîòîâêå äîêóìåíòîâ ðàáîòîäàòåëü îïèñàë, ÷åì òû áóäåøü çàíèìàòüñÿ íà ðàáîòå. "Ïðèíîñèòü áóìàãè" è ïðî÷èå ïîäîáíûå îáÿçàííîñòè âðÿä ëè ïîäîéäóò äëÿ H1. Ïëþñ, çà÷åì åìó íàíèìàòü êîãî òî èç Ðîññèè, æäàòü, ïîêà îí ïðèåäåò, íåñòè êàêèå-òî çàòðàòû íà îôîðìëåíèå ðàáî÷åé âèçû, ÷òîáû íàíÿòü àññèñòåíòà?
Ýòî, êîíå÷íî, ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû îôôòîï è êîíêðåòíî îöåíêè ðåçþìå íå êàñàåòñÿ, íî ìîæåò áûòü òåáå èìååò ñìûñë äåëàòü óïîð èìåííî íà ïîçèöèþ ïðîãðàììèñòà? _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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ßí Ôèõòåð Ñóïåð-ïóïåð ìåãà-îôôòîïùèê
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: 03.06.2005 : 691 : Èðêóòñê
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Ýòî, êîíå÷íî, ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû îôôòîï è êîíêðåòíî îöåíêè ðåçþìå íå êàñàåòñÿ, íî ìîæåò áûòü òåáå èìååò ñìûñë äåëàòü óïîð èìåííî íà ïîçèöèþ ïðîãðàììèñòà? |
Òû ïðàâ. Íî Debaser ïðèàâèëüíî ñêàçàë, ÷òî êîíêðåòíî ïî ïîçèöèè ïðîãðàììèñòà ó ìåíÿ ìàëî îïûòà ðàáîòû. ×òî ïîñîâåòóåøü? _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Íî Debaser ïðèàâèëüíî ñêàçàë, ÷òî êîíêðåòíî ïî ïîçèöèè ïðîãðàììèñòà ó ìåíÿ ìàëî îïûòà ðàáîòû. ×òî ïîñîâåòóåøü? |
Debaser ñêàçàë, ÷òî skills íå ïîäòâåðæäåíû îïûòîì ðàáîòû, à ñóäÿ ïî work experience òû íè äíÿ íå ïðîðàáîòàë ïðîãðàììèñòîì. Îí íå ãîâîðèë, ÷òî îïûòà ó òåáÿ ìàëî, íî ÷èòàë ðåçþìå òàê, êàê áóäåò ÷èòàòü åãî ðàáîòîäàòåëü
Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, äëÿ ïîçèöèè ïðîãðàììèñòà ðåçþìå íóæíî ïîñòðîèòü íå ñ ïåðå÷èñëåíèåì îïûòà â êà÷åñòâå "Editor in Chief", à â êà÷åñòâå ôðèëàíñåðà. Óêàçàòü äàòû, êîãäà òû áûë ôðèëàíñåðîì, ñïèñîê ðàáî÷èõ îáÿçàííîñòåé è ïðèìåíÿåìûõ òåõíîëîãèé è ò. ä.
Íåìíîãî ïðèâðàòü â ðåçþìå, êñòàòè, òîæå ìèëîå äåëî, åñëè ñìîæåøü ïîäòâåðäèòü óêàçàííûå íàâûêè ![Èðîíè÷åñêè çëîé](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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ßí Ôèõòåð Ñóïåð-ïóïåð ìåãà-îôôòîïùèê
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: 03.06.2005 : 691 : Èðêóòñê
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Íåìíîãî ïðèâðàòü â ðåçþìå, êñòàòè, òîæå ìèëîå äåëî, åñëè ñìîæåøü ïîäòâåðäèòü óêàçàííûå íàâûêè ![Èðîíè÷åñêè çëîé](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
Âàñ ïîíÿë, ñýð... Áóäåò ñäåëàíî!
ß êñòàòè óæå íåìíîãî ïðèâðàë, óêàçàâ MySQL è Ajax. Íó ýòî ñ ó÷åòîì òîãî, ÷òî çà áëèæàéøèé ãîä-äâà, ÷òî ÿ áóäó æäàòü ïðèãëàøåíèÿ, ÿ óæå îñâîþ ýòè ïðèìî÷êè ))) _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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Debaser (): |
ßãîäêè ñîñòîÿò â òîì ÷òî îáà ðåçþìå íà ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûå ïîçèöèè íå òÿíóò. Æóðíàëèñò èëè ðåäàêòîð - ñ òàêèì àíãëèéñêèì êàê â ðåçþìå - íåðåàëüíî. |
 êîíöå êîíöîâ, êòî èç âàñ ìîæåò ïîõâàñòàòüñÿ òåì, ÷òî îòëè÷íî çíàë ÿçûê äî òîãî êàê ïîïàë â ÑØÀ? Áîëüøèíñòâî îñâàèâàëè åãî íà ìåñòå... |
Äà è íåò, òî åñòü äà, íî íå æóðíàëèñòû íà H1B, ÷òî åñòü ïðîôåññèîíàëüíàÿ âèçà.  ïðîöåññå ïîäà÷è íà êîòîðóþ ðåäàêöèè ïðèäåòñÿ äîêàçàòü ÷òî îíà íå ñìîãëà íàéòè ìåñòíûõ êâàëèôèöèðîâàííûõ êàíäèäàòîâ íà ýòó ïîçèöèþ. Òàê ÷òî ÿ ñîãëàñåí ñ Àíäðååì, íàäî äåëàòü óïîð íà ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèå, åñëè èñõîäèòü èç ýòèõ 2-õ îïöèé.
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Åäèíñòâåííîå, ÷åì ìîãó ïîõâàñòàòüñÿ â ýòîé îáëàñòè ýòî ôðèëàíñ. Äåëàþ ñàéòû íà çàêàç.
Äà, ÿ íå ïðîðàáîòàë íè äíÿ ïðîãðàììèñòîì îôèöèàëüíî, íî ýòî íå çíà÷èò, ÷òî ÿ íå óìåþ ýòî äåëàòü! Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ðàáîòîäàòåëþ ýòîãî íå îáúÿñíèøü... Êàê òîãäà áûòü? Ðàñïèñûâàòü ïî ïîçèöèÿì êîãäà êîìó è êàêèå ñàéòû ÿ äåëàë? |
Ðåçþìå - ýòî íå âûïèñêà èç òðóäîâîé êíèæêè. Íå îòíîñÿùèåñÿ ê ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèþ ðàáîòû â ðåçþìå íà ïðîãðàììèðîâàíèå íèêîãî íå èíòåðåñóþò. Òàêæå åùå îáùèé ñîâåò ïî ðåçþìå, â îïèñàíèè ðàáîòû íå íàäî ïèñàòü îáÿçàííîñòè, íàäî ïèñàòü êîíêðåòíûå äîñòèãíóòûå ðåçóëüòàòû, è ÷åì êîíêðåòíåå òåì ëó÷øå. Êàæäîå ñëîâî â íåì äîëæíî èìåòü âåñ. Google power verbs.
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Ñïàñèáî çà êîíñòðóêòèâíóþ êðèòèêó. À ìîæíî ïîèíòåðåñîâàòüñÿ ÷òî èìåííî â ìîåì ðåçþìå íàâåëî íà ìûñëü î ìîåì not perfect English? |
Åñòü îùóùåíèå ìåñòàìè ÷òî ÷èòàþ ðóññêèé òåêñò àíãëèéñêèìè ñëîâàìè. Òðàäèöèîííîå äëÿ íàñ èçáûòî÷íîå óïîòðåáëåíèå of è make. Ïî÷åìó Finding of qualified staff? Repair of computers, maintenance of software, editing of articles, Creating content of web ... Ñòàíäàðòíûå âûðàæåíèÿ qualified staff recruiting, computer repair, software maintenance, editing articles, creating web content . Not "Making interviews with famous people in the city", but "Interviewed famous people of the city". Not "Won a tender to create a design for the site of the newspaper “All ads of Irkutsk”. Made a html coding for this site." but "Won tender to design “All ads of Irkutsk” newspaper web site. Wrote html code for it". Òî áèøü ñ àðòèêëÿìè áåäà.
Íà ñàìîì äåëå îñîáîãî ñìûñëà ïðàâèòü àíãëèéñêèé ñåé÷àñ íåò, òàê êàê âñå ðàâíî ðåçþìå íàäî ïåðåïèñûâàòü ñ íóëÿ, IMO. Óäà÷è![/quote] _________________
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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Áîþñü âàñ îãîð÷èòü, íî IMHO, êàê íè êðóòè ðåçþìå, ïîòåíöèàëüíûå H1 visa sponsors íà âàñ íå êëþíóò. Ïî ïðîôåññèè æóðíàëèñòà, êàê óæå ïðàâèëüíî îòìåòèëè, H1 îáû÷íî íå ñïîíñèðóþò. Äëÿ ðåäêèõ èñêëþ÷åíèé äëÿ ðàáîòû â ÑØÀ ïîíàäîáèëîñü áû çíàíèå àíãëèéñêîãî íà óðîâíå íå õóæå àìåðèêàíñêèõ æóðíàëèñòîâ. Äà è òî ñêîðåå áû íàíÿëè êàêîãî-íèáóäü "âîëüíîãî ñòðåëêà" â Ðîññèè - çà÷åì íà âèçó òðàòèòüñÿ è ãåìîððîé èìåòü?
Äëÿ îñòàëüíûõ ïðîôåññèé - web<whatever> èëè, òåì áîëåå, ïðîãðàììèñòà âû, ïàðäîí, ïðîñòî íåêâàëèôèöèðîâàíû. Âàì íàäî áû õîòÿ áû íåñêîëüêî ëåò â Ðîññèè ñåðüåçíî ïîðàáîòàòü ïî ñïåöèàëüíîñòè ïåðåä òåì, êàê ðâàòüñÿ â ÑØÀ. Íó èëè îáðàçîâàíèå ìîùíîå èìåòü. À "íå çíàþ, íî çà ãîä îñâîþ" - ýòî âîîáùå íåñåðüåçíî. Òóò ñâîèõ òàêèõ õâàòàåò. Ìíå ÷àñòî äîâîäèòñÿ âèäåòü ðåçþìå ëþäåé, ïðåòåíäóþùèõ íà âèçó, è îáà âàøèõ íà èõ ôîíå âûçûâàþò â ëó÷øåì ñëó÷àå èðîíè÷åñêóþ óëûáêó.
Ñêàæó áîëüøå - äàæå åñëè áû ó âàñ áûëà green card, òî âàì è òî áûëî áû òðóäíî íàéòè ðàáîòó â ÑØÀ ñ òàêèìè èñõîäíûìè äàííûìè. Òåì áîëåå â íûíåøíåé ýêîíîìè÷åñêîé ñèòóàöèè.
P.S. Åñëè íå âåðèòå ìíå - ìîæåòå âûëîæèòü ðåçþìå íà ôîðóìå Ïðèâåò. Òîëüêî ó÷òèòå, ÷òî òàì íàðîä ãîðàçäî áîëåå ïðÿìîëèíåéíûé.
P.P.S. Ìîæíî, êîíå÷íî, âîîáùå ïðîñòî íàãëî íàâðàòü, ÷òî âû êðóòåéøèé ïðîãðàììèñò ñî çíàíèåì êàêèõ-íèáóäü Ruby on Rails, íî íà ïåðâîì æå èíòåðâüþ âàñ ðàñêîëÿò. Òóò óæå ìíîãèå îáîæãëèñü íà âðóíàõ-èíäóñàõ è "ìàò÷àñòü ñïðàøèâàþò" äîâîëüíî ñóðîâî, åñëè íåò ïîäòâåðæäåííîãî îïûòà â ÑØÀ è îòëè÷íûõ references. |
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ßí Ôèõòåð Ñóïåð-ïóïåð ìåãà-îôôòîïùèê
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Ñïàñèáî âñåì çà ïîìîùü è ãðàìîòíóþ îöåíêó. ß ïîíÿë, ÷òî ñ òàêèì ðåçþìå ìíå ñîâàòüñÿ íå ñòîèò. _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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Slava ÍËÎ
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Ñïàñèáî âñåì çà ïîìîùü è ãðàìîòíóþ îöåíêó. ß ïîíÿë, ÷òî ñ òàêèì ðåçþìå ìíå ñîâàòüñÿ íå ñòîèò. |
Ïðîñòî ðåçþìå äîäåëàòü è ïîïðîáîâàòü âñå ðàâíî ìîæíî
Äåíåõ ñ òåáÿ íå ïîòðåáóþò. Ïðîñòî òåáå ñêàçàëè ÷òî øàíñû áóäóò ñòðåìèòüñÿ ê íóëþ. Íî âåäü íèêòî æå íå ñêàçàë ÷òî øàíñû ñòîïóäîâî ðàâíû íóëþ.
Âîò åñëè òû íè÷åãî íå ñäåëàåøü òî òîãäà òî÷íî áóäåò 0.
À ïîïðûãàòü è ÷å-íèòü ïîïðîáîâàòü ýòî òîæå ðåçóëüòàò. À âäðóã ïîâåçåò? ![Ñìåõ](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ Good judgment comes from expirience.
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ßí Ôèõòåð Ñóïåð-ïóïåð ìåãà-îôôòîïùèê
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: 03.06.2005 : 691 : Èðêóòñê
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Âîò åñëè òû íè÷åãî íå ñäåëàåøü òî òîãäà òî÷íî áóäåò 0.
À ïîïðûãàòü è ÷å-íèòü ïîïðîáîâàòü ýòî òîæå ðåçóëüòàò. À âäðóã ïîâåçåò? ![Ñìåõ](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
ß âîâñå íå ñîáèðàþñü îïóñêàòü ðóêè. Ýòî íå â ìîèõ ïðàâèëàõ!
Áóäó ðàçâèâàòü ñâîè íàâûêè, ó÷èòü ÿçûê è íàïèøó íîâîå ðåçþìå, êîòîðîå ïðèáàâèò ìíå øàíñîâ â ïîèñêå ðàáîòû. _________________ Íå èùè ïðîòîðåííûõ ïóòåé. Èäè äîðîãàìè, êîòîðûõ íåò íà êàðòå, è îñòàâü ñâîé ñëåä |
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