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S-K-Y Íîâè÷îê
: 12.11.2008 : 16 : ã. Êàëèíèíãðàä Ðîññèÿ. Made in Kazahstan
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: , 8, 2008 11:47pm :  Àìåðèêó ÷åðåç Êàíàäñêîå Ãðàæäàíñòâî !!! Ýòî ðåàëüíî? |
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ß çíàþ, ÷òî åñëè ðàáîòàòü 2 ãîäà â Êàíàäå, ìîæíî ïîëó÷èòü ñòàòóñ ïîñòîÿííîãî æèòåëÿ.
À ñêîëüêî íóæíî ðàáîòàòü ÷òîáû ïîëó÷èòü Ãðàæäàíñòâî Êàíàäû?
Ìíå ñêàçàëè â àãåíñòâå ÷òî ãðàæäàíå Êàíàäû èìåþò áåçâèçîâûé âüåçä è íåîãðàíè÷åííîå ïðèáûâàíèå â ÑØÀ !!!
Òàê ëè ýòî ? _________________ Çäðàâñòâóéòå, ß Âàøà Ò¸òÿ ! |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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Íî ýòî òåáå íå ïîìîæåò. Êàíàäöû ìîãóò âúåçæàòü â Àìåðèêó áåç âèçû òîëüêî ñ öåëüþ òóðèçìà. Ïðàâà ðàáîòàòü è ó÷èòüñÿ ó íèõ ïðè ýòîì íåò. Äëÿ ðàáîòû íàäî îôîðìëÿòü TN èëè H1b âèçó, äëÿ ó÷åáû - F1 è ò.ä. Íåîãðàíè÷åííîñòü ïðåáûâàíèÿ äëÿ êàíàäñêèõ òóðèñòîâ îãðàíè÷åíà 6 ìåñÿöàìè â ãîä. _________________
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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À ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, ïåðåáðàâøèñü â Êàíàäó, íàôèãà òåáå ïîòîì â Øòàòû ïåðååçæàòü? |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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Debaser (): |
Íåîãðàíè÷åííîñòü ïðåáûâàíèÿ äëÿ êàíàäñêèõ òóðèñòîâ îãðàíè÷åíà 6 ìåñÿöàìè â ãîä. |
Îòêóäà öèôðà ïðî 6 ìåñÿöåâ â ãîä?
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äëÿ ó÷åáû - F1 |
Êàíàäöàì äëÿ âðåìåííîãî âúåçäà íóæíû òîëüêî A, G, E, K è V âèçû, ñòóäåí÷åñêàÿ èì íå íóæíà. |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 10, 2008 5:32am : |
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White Owl (): |
À ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, ïåðåáðàâøèñü â Êàíàäó, íàôèãà òåáå ïîòîì â Øòàòû ïåðååçæàòü? |
 Êàíàäå æ õîëîäíî è ñíåã. Êàê òàì æèòü âàùå? |
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S-K-Y Íîâè÷îê
: 12.11.2008 : 16 : ã. Êàëèíèíãðàä Ðîññèÿ. Made in Kazahstan
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: , 10, 2008 7:12am : |
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Äà èç õîëîäà â Õîëîä ! Ëó÷øå óæ 5 ëåò ïîëó÷èòü ëåãàëüíûé ñòàòóñ â Êàíàäå ÷åì 5 ëåò íåëåãàëî â ÑØÀ.
Äóìàë ïîåõàòü ó÷èòüñÿ â ÑØÀ ïî F-1, íî äåíåã êðîìå êàê íà ÿç êóðñû, îñîáî íåò. Áîþñü ïðîëå÷ó ñî ñòàòóñîì. Êàê ñòàíó íåëåãàëîì òàê âîîáùå âñå çàêîí÷èòñÿ. Åñëè â Êàíàäå ìîæíî ëåãàëüíî ñòàòü ãðàæäàíèíîì ëó÷øå óæ â õîëîäå , íî áåç ïðÿòîê îò ïîëèñ ìåíîâ )) _________________ Çäðàâñòâóéòå, ß Âàøà Ò¸òÿ ! |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 10, 2008 2:36pm : |
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Hashish (): |
Debaser (): |
äëÿ ó÷åáû - F1 |
Êàíàäöàì äëÿ âðåìåííîãî âúåçäà íóæíû òîëüêî A, G, E, K è V âèçû, ñòóäåí÷åñêàÿ èì íå íóæíà. |
Sorry, âèçà êàê òàêîâàÿ íå íóæíà, íóæíà I-20, è òîãäà ïðè âúåçäå äàäóò I-94 è ñòóäåí÷åñêèé ñòàòóñ äî êîíöà îáó÷åíèÿ.
Hashish (): |
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Íåîãðàíè÷åííîñòü ïðåáûâàíèÿ äëÿ êàíàäñêèõ òóðèñòîâ îãðàíè÷åíà 6 ìåñÿöàìè â ãîä. |
Îòêóäà öèôðà ïðî 6 ìåñÿöåâ â ãîä? |
äà âîáùåì-òî âåçäå. Íàïðèìåð http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en.asp?country=308000
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A maximum admission period of six months is expected to be the norm for Canadian retirees seeking to winter in warmer climates. Those who wish to stay longer may apply for an extension with the nearest office of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service once they are in the United States, but before their authorized stay expires. They may be asked to demonstrate that they are only remaining temporarily in the U.S.
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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A maximum admission period of six months is expected to be the norm for Canadian retirees seeking to winter in warmer climates. Those who wish to stay longer may apply for an extension with the nearest office of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service once they are in the United States, but before their authorized stay expires. They may be asked to demonstrate that they are only remaining temporarily in the U.S.
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Ýòî âðîäå áû îçíà÷àåò "ïåíñèîíåð". Äà è íå âèæó ÿ òóò ôîðìóëèðîâêè, ÷òî "6 ìåñÿöåâ â ãîä", íàîáîðîò, íàïèñàíî: èäèòå è ïðîäëåâàéòå åñëè õîòèòå. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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S-K-Y (): |
Åñëè â Êàíàäå ìîæíî ëåãàëüíî ñòàòü ãðàæäàíèíîì ëó÷øå óæ â õîëîäå , íî áåç ïðÿòîê îò ïîëèñ ìåíîâ )) |
 Êàíàäó íóæíî òîæå ïîñòàðàòüñÿ, ÷òîáû ïîïàñòü. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ |
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Redneck Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 10.11.2008 : 361 : Yekaterinburg
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White Owl (): |
À ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, ïåðåáðàâøèñü â Êàíàäó, íàôèãà òåáå ïîòîì â Øòàòû ïåðååçæàòü? |
Hashish (): |
 Êàíàäå æ õîëîäíî è ñíåã. Êàê òàì æèòü âàùå? |
S-K-Y (): |
Äà èç õîëîäà â Õîëîä ! Ëó÷øå óæ 5 ëåò ïîëó÷èòü ëåãàëüíûé ñòàòóñ â Êàíàäå ÷åì 5 ëåò íåëåãàëî â ÑØÀ.
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Ñîãëàñåí, ÷òî â ñèòóàöèè S-K-Y ëó÷øå òàê, êàê îí ãîâîðèò.
Ëè÷íî ÿ íå îáîëüùàþñü ïî ïîâîäó ðàññìîòðåíèÿ Êàíàäû êàê ñïîñîá ïåðååõàòü â ÑØÀ. Ñêîðåå âñåãî, ýòî äâîéíàÿ ðàáîòà.
È âîîáùå, ÿ â Êàíàäå íèêîãäà íå ñìîãó æèòü. Âî-ïåðâûõ î÷åíü ìíîãèì íàïîìèíàåò ÑØÀ, âî-âòîðûõ, òå æå ÑØÀ ïîä áîêîì.
Ýòî ìîæåò ïîðîäèòü òîëüêî áåñïðåäåëüíîå óíûíèå
Ëó÷øå òîãäà ïðîäîëæàòü æèòü â Ðîññèè. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, êëèìàò ïîõîæ íà êàíàäñêèé.
È âîîáùå, ó ìåíÿ òàêîå äèëåòàíòñêîå îùóùåíèå, ÷òî Êàíàäà - âî ìíîãîì êîïèÿ ÑØÀ, êîòîðàÿ âñåãäà õóæå îðèãèíàëà.
Âîçìîæíî, äëÿ ýòîãî ìíå è ñòîèò ïîáûâàòü â Êàíàäå, ÷òîáû óáåäèòüñÿ â å¸ ñàìîáûòíîñòè. _________________
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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 Êàíàäå æ õîëîäíî è ñíåã. Êàê òàì æèòü âàùå? |
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Éà òàêîãî íå ïèñàë.
Íî ñàì ðàçäåëÿþ ìíåíèå, øî Êàíàäà ñóòü ñàìûé áîëüøîé àìåðèêàíñêèé íàöèîíàëüíûé ïàðê è èììèãðàöèîííûé îòñòîéíèê. Ëó÷øå â Àâñòðàëèþ ïîåäó, òàì òîæå èììèãðàöèÿ ïî áàëëàì. |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Hashish (): |
 Êàíàäå æ õîëîäíî è ñíåã. Êàê òàì æèòü âàùå? |
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Éà òàêîãî íå ïèñàë.
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Ýòî éà ïèñàë. Ñ öèòàòàìè ÷åãî-òî íàìóäðèëîñü.
Hashish (): |
Íî ñàì ðàçäåëÿþ ìíåíèå, øî Êàíàäà ñóòü ñàìûé áîëüøîé àìåðèêàíñêèé íàöèîíàëüíûé ïàðê è èììèãðàöèîííûé îòñòîéíèê. Ëó÷øå â Àâñòðàëèþ ïîåäó, òàì òîæå èììèãðàöèÿ ïî áàëëàì. |
Ýòî òàêèå ðàçíûå ñòðàíû... ß äàæå íå çíàþ, êóäà áû ïîåõàë ïðè íàëè÷èè âûáîðà. Íàâåðíîå, âñå-òàêè â Êàíàäó, íî â þæíûå ãîðîäà Êàíàäû. Êàíàäà êàê-òî ïîöèâèëüíåå è íå íàñòîëüêî íà êðàþ ñâåòà. |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Redneck (): |
È âîîáùå, ó ìåíÿ òàêîå äèëåòàíòñêîå îùóùåíèå, ÷òî Êàíàäà - âî ìíîãîì êîïèÿ ÑØÀ, êîòîðàÿ âñåãäà õóæå îðèãèíàëà.
Âîçìîæíî, äëÿ ýòîãî ìíå è ñòîèò ïîáûâàòü â Êàíàäå, ÷òîáû óáåäèòüñÿ â å¸ ñàìîáûòíîñòè. |
ß òîæå â Êàíàäå íå áûë (êàê è â ÑØÀ). Íî ó ìåíÿ ìíåíèå, ÷òî Êàíàäà - ýòî, âñå-òàêè, äðóãàÿ ñòðàíà. Ïîõîæàÿ, íî äðóãàÿ. È íå õóæå, à ïðîñòî òàì ìíîãîå ïî-äðóãîìó (êëèìàò, ñîöèàëüíûå ïðîãðàììû, íàëîãè, íåêîòîðûå çàêîíû - îðóæèå çàïðåùåíî, íàïðèìåð).
È åùå, êàíàäöû èìåþò áðèòàíñêîå ïîääàíñòâî, è òàì âåëèêî âëèÿíèå ôðàíöóçñêîé êóëüòóðû. Òàê ÷òî ñàìîáûòíîñòè õâàòàåò. |
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Redneck Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 10.11.2008 : 361 : Yekaterinburg
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È íå õóæå, à ïðîñòî òàì ìíîãîå ïî-äðóãîìó |
Âîîáùå-òî ÿ íå ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî Êàíàäà "õóæå".
À ÷òî Êàíàäà, êàê è Àâñòðàëèÿ èìååò áðèòàíñêîå ïîääàíñòâî - ýòî âåðíî. Ó Àâñòðàëèè äàæå ýëåìåíò ôëàãà îò àíãëèéñêîãî.
 íåêîòîðûõ ïðîâèíöèÿõ Êàíàäû äîìèíèðóåò ôðàíöóçñêèé ÿçûê, à òàêæå êèòàéñêèé.  ÑØÀ âåäü òîæå â íåêîòîðûõ îêðóãàõ íà àíãëèéñêîì ãîâîðèòü íåâîçìîæíî. _________________
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Redneck (): |
 íåêîòîðûõ ïðîâèíöèÿõ Êàíàäû äîìèíèðóåò ôðàíöóçñêèé ÿçûê, à òàêæå êèòàéñêèé.  ÑØÀ âåäü òîæå â íåêîòîðûõ îêðóãàõ íà àíãëèéñêîì ãîâîðèòü íåâîçìîæíî. |
Êèòàéñêèé ÿçûê ìåñòàìè ïî âñåìó ìèðó äîìèíèðóåò. |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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Äà è íå âèæó ÿ òóò ôîðìóëèðîâêè, ÷òî "6 ìåñÿöåâ â ãîä" |
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Canadian visitors are generally granted a stay in the U.S. for up to six months at the time of entry. Requests by any foreigner to extend or adjust a stay must be made prior to expiry to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service. All Canadians are reminded that U.S. law requires all foreigners to qualify for the desired stay and purpose at the time of their intial entry. A visitor who intends to live, work or study in the U.S. may be permanently barred from the U.S. |
http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/canadians.asp
 ïëàíå ðàáîòû â ÑØÀ ãðàæäàíå ñòðàí NAFTA (âêëþ÷àåò Êàíàäó è Ìåêñèêó) èìåþò òîëüêî òàêîå ïðåèìóùåñòâî, ÷òî îíè ìîãóò ðàáîòàòü ïî TN âèçå, êîòîðóþ ïðîùå ïîëó÷èòü è íà êîòîðûå íåò êâîòû (íó èëè åå ïîêà âïîëíå õâàòàåò). Îäíàêî ÷òîáû ïîñåëèòüñÿ â ÑØÀ ïîñòîÿííî, êàíàäöû äîëæíû ïðîõîäèòü òî÷íî òàêîé æå ïðîöåññ, êàê è âñå îñòàëüíûå. Òî æå ñàìîå, êñòàòè, îòíîñèòñÿ è ê èììèãðàöèè ãðàæäàí ÑØÀ â Êàíàäó - òå æå áàëëû è ò.ä.
Ãðàæäàíñòâî Êàíàäû äëÿ èììèãðàöèè â ÑØÀ èìååò íå áîëüøå ïðåèìóùåñòâ, ÷åì ãðàæäàíñòâî Ëàòâèè. |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Canadian visitors are generally granted a stay in the U.S. for up to six months at the time of entry. |
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Íå â êàññó. Òóò òîæå íå íàïèñàíî, ÷òî 6 ìåñÿöåâ â ãîä. Òóò íàïèñàíî - ïî ïðèåçäó ìîæåòå áûòü îáû÷íî 6 ìåñÿöåâ, åñëè õîòèòå - ïðîäëåâàéòå, íî íå áîðçåéòå, ÷òîáû ìû íå ïîäóìàëè, ÷òî âû òóò æèâ¸òå. È âñ¸, îñòàëüíîå ïðåäëàãàåòñÿ äîìûñëèòü.
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êîòîðóþ ïðîùå ïîëó÷èòü |
Íó äà. Ÿ íà ãðàíèöå ïîëó÷èòü ìîæíî.
Helen_NJ (): |
Òî æå ñàìîå, êñòàòè, îòíîñèòñÿ è ê èììèãðàöèè ãðàæäàí ÑØÀ â Êàíàäó - òå æå áàëëû è ò.ä. |
 îáùåì-òî äà. Íî ðåãèîíàëüíûå ïðîãðàììû èììèãðàöèè ìîãóò èìåòü âàðèàöèè. Ñêàæåì, â Àëüáåðòó íå íóæåí îôôåð, åñëè áûë íà h1b â ÑØÀ ãîä.
http://www.canadavisa.com/in-the-us-on-an-h1b-Alberta-pnp-has-a-new-option-for-you.html |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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 îáùåì-òî äà. Íî ðåãèîíàëüíûå ïðîãðàììû èììèãðàöèè ìîãóò èìåòü âàðèàöèè. Ñêàæåì, â Àëüáåðòó íå íóæåí îôôåð, åñëè áûë íà h1b â ÑØÀ ãîä. |
×òî-òî íè îäèí èç îôèöèàëüíûõ ñàéòîâ ýòîé èíôîðìàöèè íå ïîäòâåðæäàåò, äàæå íàîáîðîò:
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I would like to immigrate to Alberta, but I do not have an employer or a job offer. Can I still apply to the Alberta Immigrant Nominee Program?
No. Individuals who wish to immigrate to Alberta but do not have job offer or employment with an approved Alberta employer may contact Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Canada to apply for immigration. |
http://www.albertacanada.com/immigration/immigrate/faqs.html#pnp3
Äà, åñòü â Êàíàäå è ò.í. "ïðîâèíöèàëüíûå" ïðîãðàììû, íî, íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî, íè îäíà èç íèõ íå äàåò ïðåèìóùåñòâ ãðàæäàíàì êàêîé-òî êîíêðåòíîé ñòðàíû. |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 06.03.2008 : 1231
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Ìîæåò áûòü. ß îñîáî íå âíèêàë. Ìíå áûëî èíòåðåñíî ïîíÿòü ïðî "â ãîä" - ýòî íà ñàìîì äåëå, èëè ïðèñíèëîñü Äåáàñåðó. |
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