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Evgeniy Malyshev Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 12.03.2012 : 450 : Dm.-Pomryaskino/Ulyanovsk, Russia
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à êàê ïðîâåðèòü òî? ýòî DV Loterry 2014? _________________ If you`re going to San Francisco,
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you`re going to San Francisco,
You`re gonna meet some gentle people there |
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Evgeniy Malyshev Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 12.03.2012 : 450 : Dm.-Pomryaskino/Ulyanovsk, Russia
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«You are among those randomly selected for further processing in the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program for the fiscal year 2014 (October 1, 2013 to September 30, 2014 ). Selection does not guarantee that you will receive a visa because the number of applicants selected is greater than the number of visas available. Please retain this letter and take it with you to your visa interview»
êàê ýòî ïîíÿòü? _________________ If you`re going to San Francisco,
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you`re going to San Francisco,
You`re gonna meet some gentle people there |
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GRA Íîâè÷îê
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«You are among those randomly selected for further processing in the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program for the fiscal year 2014 (October 1, 2013 to September 30, 2014 ). Selection does not guarantee that you will receive a visa because the number of applicants selected is greater than the number of visas available. Please retain this letter and take it with you to your visa interview»
êàê ýòî ïîíÿòü? |
Åâãåíèé, ýòî çíà÷èò ÷òî òû âûèãðàë ëîòåðåþ.
Ïîçäðàâëÿþ ! |
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
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: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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Óðà!!! Íà ôîðóìå õîðîøèå íîâîñòè!!! Åâãåíèé, ïîçäðàâëÿþ !!! ![Ïàòðèîò](images/smiles/icon_usflag.gif) _________________ MaxiM |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Evgeniy Malyshev Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 12.03.2012 : 450 : Dm.-Pomryaskino/Ulyanovsk, Russia
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Åâãåíèé, ýòî çíà÷èò ÷òî òû âûèãðàë ëîòåðåþ. |
Ëîòåðåþ ÿ íå âûèãðàë, õîòü ñåé÷àñ è íå 1 àïðåëÿ.. ðåøèë ïîäøóòèòü, ÷òîáû îæèâèòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ ôîðóìà, àòî ÷òî-òî âîîáùå ñêèñ îí..
íå õîòÿò ìåíÿ îòïóñêàòü òóäà ïîêà..âèäèìî
Àíäðåé, íå çíàêîì ñ êîìïîçèòîðîì Åâãåíèåì Îâñèåíêî? îí òîæå æèâåò â Ë.À... _________________ If you`re going to San Francisco,
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you`re going to San Francisco,
You`re gonna meet some gentle people there |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Àíäðåé, íå çíàêîì ñ êîìïîçèòîðîì Åâãåíèåì Îâñèåíêî? îí òîæå æèâåò â Ë.À... |
Íåò. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Tet Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 18.07.2011 : 1233 : Óêðàèíà, íî ùà âðåìåííî â Èòàëèè
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: , 5, 2013 6:25am : DV-2014 |
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Ïðàâèëüíî ëè ÿ ïîíÿëà ?
Based on the information provided, the Entry HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED for further processing for the Electronic Diversity Visa program at this time.
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Ýòî äàæå íå ïðîéäåí îòáîð äëÿ äàëüíåéøåãî ðîçûãðûøà è çíà÷èò åñòü ãäå-òî îøèáêè? Òàê? _________________ Çäîðîâüÿ, ìèðà, óäà÷è è äîëãèõ ñ÷àñòëèâûõ ëåò.
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
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Åâãåíèé, ýòî çíà÷èò ÷òî òû âûèãðàë ëîòåðåþ. |
Ëîòåðåþ ÿ íå âûèãðàë, õîòü ñåé÷àñ è íå 1 àïðåëÿ.. ðåøèë ïîäøóòèòü, ÷òîáû îæèâèòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ ôîðóìà, àòî ÷òî-òî âîîáùå ñêèñ îí..
íå õîòÿò ìåíÿ îòïóñêàòü òóäà ïîêà..âèäèìî
Àíäðåé, íå çíàêîì ñ êîìïîçèòîðîì Åâãåíèåì Îâñèåíêî? îí òîæå æèâåò â Ë.À... |
Íè÷åãî, â ñëåäóþùèé ðàç, êîãäà òû ïî-íàñòîÿùåìó âûèãðàåøü â ëîòåðåþ, - ìû ïîðæåì íàä òîáîé îò äóøè ![Ïîäêàëûâàþ](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ MaxiM
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
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: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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Ïðàâèëüíî ëè ÿ ïîíÿëà ?
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Ýòî äàæå íå ïðîéäåí îòáîð äëÿ äàëüíåéøåãî ðîçûãðûøà è çíà÷èò åñòü ãäå-òî îøèáêè? Òàê? |
Ìîé âîëüíûé ïåðåâîä ýòîé ôðàçû: ó÷èì êà÷åñòâåííî àíãëèéñêèé, êîïèì äåíüãè è äåðçàåì äàëåå â ïîêîðåíèè Àìåðèêè. _________________ MaxiM |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Based on the information provided, the Entry HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED for further processing for the Electronic Diversity Visa program at this time.
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Ýòî äàæå íå ïðîéäåí îòáîð äëÿ äàëüíåéøåãî ðîçûãðûøà è çíà÷èò åñòü ãäå-òî îøèáêè? Òàê? |
Íåò âûèãðûøà. Ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ îáåäèòüñÿ, ÷òî ïðè ââîäå ñâîåé èíôîðìàöèè (÷òîáû ïðîâåðèòü âûèãðûø) íå áûëî äîïóùåíî îøèáîê. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Tet Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 18.07.2011 : 1233 : Óêðàèíà, íî ùà âðåìåííî â Èòàëèè
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Ýòî äàæå íå ïðîéäåí îòáîð äëÿ äàëüíåéøåãî ðîçûãðûøà è çíà÷èò åñòü ãäå-òî îøèáêè? Òàê? |
Íåò âûèãðûøà. Ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ îáåäèòüñÿ, ÷òî ïðè ââîäå ñâîåé èíôîðìàöèè (÷òîáû ïðîâåðèòü âûèãðûø) íå áûëî äîïóùåíî îøèáîê. |
Ñïàñèáî, Àíäðåé.
Íàâåðíîå, íåò òàêîé âîçìîæíîñòè óçíàòü ÷òî èìåííî ñ÷èòàåòñÿ îøèáêîé.
ß ìîãó òîëüêî ïðåäïîëàãàòü, ÷òî îøèáêîé ÿâëÿåòñÿ îòñóòñòâèå çàïîëíåíèÿ "Middle name" , òî÷íåå óêàçàòü, ÷òî ÿ òàì ïîñòàâèëà ãàëî÷êó, ÷òî íåò ó ìåíÿ òàêîãî (â óêðàèíñêîì çàãðàíïàñïîðòå òîëüêî èìÿ è ôàìèëèÿ óêàçàíû). Âñå îñòàëüíîå áûëî áåç îøèáîê, õîòÿ... ÿ íå âïîëíå ïîíèìàþ äåëåíèÿ â ñîâðåìåííûõ âóçàõ íà áàêàëàâðà, ñïåöèàëèñòà, ìàãèñòðà è/ èëè äð. Ìîæåò êîãäà çàïîëíÿëà èíôó î ðåáåíêå, óêàçàëà, ÷òî "áàêàëàâð", à ðåáåòåíîê íà òðåòüåì êóðñå ó÷èòñÿ(ìîæåò ýòî îøèáêà).
Åñòü ëè ñïîñîáû óçíàòü â ÷åì îøèáêà? _________________ Çäîðîâüÿ, ìèðà, óäà÷è è äîëãèõ ñ÷àñòëèâûõ ëåò.
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Evgeniy Malyshev Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 12.03.2012 : 450 : Dm.-Pomryaskino/Ulyanovsk, Russia
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Íè÷åãî, â ñëåäóþùèé ðàç, êîãäà òû ïî-íàñòîÿùåìó âûèãðàåøü â ëîòåðåþ, - ìû ïîðæåì íàä òîáîé îò äóøè |
íàäåþñü, ýòî ïðîèçîéäåò ![Ïîäêàëûâàþ](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ If you`re going to San Francisco,
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you`re going to San Francisco,
You`re gonna meet some gentle people there |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Åñòü ëè ñïîñîáû óçíàòü â ÷åì îøèáêà? |
Ñèñòåìà íå ãîâîðèò î òîì, ÷òî îøèáêà 100% åñòü. Ñèñòåìà ðåêîìåíäóåò óáåäèòüñÿ, ÷òî äàííûå, êîòîðûå èñïîëüçóþòñÿ äëÿ ïðîâåðêè âûèãðûøà - íàïèñàíû áåç îøèáîê.
ß íå çíàþ, ÷òî èìåííî òàì íóæíî óêàçûâàòü, íî ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî êàêîé-òî íîìåð, èìÿ è ôàìèëèþ è ÷òî-íèáóäü åùå. Äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòî óáåäèòüñÿ, ÷òî ýòà èíôîðìàöèÿ íàïèñàíî ïðàâèëüíî. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Tet Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 18.07.2011 : 1233 : Óêðàèíà, íî ùà âðåìåííî â Èòàëèè
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MaxNero (): |
ó ìåíÿ òîæå HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED... Äâàæäû.
Íó ÷òî â ïðèíöèïå áûëî ïðåäñêàçóåìî - íó íå âåçåò íàøåìó ñåìåéñòâó â ëîòåðåÿõ
Ëàäíî, çíà÷èò ïîéäåì äðóãèì ïóòåì... ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
Èäóùèå äðóãèì ïóòåì - îáúåäèíÿéòåñü!
Åñòü ïðåäëîæåíèå êîëëåêòèâíî èäòè äðóãèì ïóòåì - è âåñåëåå è íàäåæíåå áóäåò.
![Ïîäêàëûâàþ](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ Çäîðîâüÿ, ìèðà, óäà÷è è äîëãèõ ñ÷àñòëèâûõ ëåò.
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MaxNero Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 19.04.2005 : 641 : Different city in USA :) -> Moscow, RU -> USA
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Ýòî äàæå íå ïðîéäåí îòáîð äëÿ äàëüíåéøåãî ðîçûãðûøà è çíà÷èò åñòü ãäå-òî îøèáêè? Òàê? |
Äà íåò, àíêåòà âïîëíå ìîãëà ó÷àñòâîâàòü â ëîòåðåè ñëó÷àéíûõ ÷èñåë. Ïðîñòî ñëåäóþùèé øàã ýòî óæå ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ â ïîñîëüñòâå. Âîò äëÿ ýòîãî øàãà àíêåòà íå áûëà âûáðàíà.
Andrew (): |
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Ëàäíî, çíà÷èò ïîéäåì äðóãèì ïóòåì... ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
![Êëàññíî!](images/smiles/icon_cool2.gif) |
Ñàìîå îáèäíî, ÷òî "äðóãîé ïóòü" ýòî ðàáî÷àÿ âèçà... è òàì òåïåðü òîæå ëîòåðåÿ ... |
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
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: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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MaxNero (): |
ó ìåíÿ òîæå HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED... Äâàæäû.
Íó ÷òî â ïðèíöèïå áûëî ïðåäñêàçóåìî - íó íå âåçåò íàøåìó ñåìåéñòâó â ëîòåðåÿõ
Ëàäíî, çíà÷èò ïîéäåì äðóãèì ïóòåì... ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
Èäóùèå äðóãèì ïóòåì - îáúåäèíÿéòåñü!
Åñòü ïðåäëîæåíèå êîëëåêòèâíî èäòè äðóãèì ïóòåì - è âåñåëåå è íàäåæíåå áóäåò.
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Ñÿäåì âñå â ëîäêó è ïîéäåì ìîðåì ![Ñìåõ](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ MaxiM |
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
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: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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: , 7, 2013 6:43am : Re: DV-2014 |
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Ñàìîå îáèäíî, ÷òî "äðóãîé ïóòü" ýòî ðàáî÷àÿ âèçà... è òàì òåïåðü òîæå ëîòåðåÿ ... |
Ðàññêàæè ïîïîäðîáíåå, ïëç. _________________ MaxiM |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Andrew (): |
Íåò âûèãðûøà. Ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ îáåäèòüñÿ, ÷òî ïðè ââîäå ñâîåé èíôîðìàöèè (÷òîáû ïðîâåðèòü âûèãðûø) íå áûëî äîïóùåíî îøèáîê. |
Ñ ïðîøëîãî ãîäà íîâàÿ âåðñèÿ ÏÎ ïîêàçûâàåò äðóãîå ñîîáùåíèå ïðè íåâåðíûõ âõîäíûõ äàííûõ, ïîýòîìó ìîæíî íå ïåðåïðîâåðÿòü - ýòî 100% ÁÅÇ ÂÛÈ ÃÐÛ ØÀ. |
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MaxNero Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 19.04.2005 : 641 : Different city in USA :) -> Moscow, RU -> USA
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MaxNero (): |
Ñàìîå îáèäíî, ÷òî "äðóãîé ïóòü" ýòî ðàáî÷àÿ âèçà... è òàì òåïåðü òîæå ëîòåðåÿ ... |
Ðàññêàæè ïîïîäðîáíåå, ïëç. |
äà ñ ðàáî÷åé âèçîé âñå î÷åíü èíäèâèäóàëüíî - ó ìåíÿ ïîìèìî îñíîâíîé ðàáîòû, åñòü ðàáîòà-õîááè â îáëàñòè âåá ðàçðàáîòîê, ãäå ÿ çà 6 ëåò äîñòèã îïðåäåëåííûõ óñïåõîâ. Êàê ðåçóëüòàò - ïîñëåäíèå 2 ãîäà ðàáîòàþ íà ïîñòîÿííîé îñíîâå ñ îäíîé íåáîëüøîé âåá-ñòóäèåé â øòàòàõ êàê ãëàâíûé ðàçðàáîò÷èê. Ñòóäèÿ âðîäå íå áîëüøàÿ, íî ïðîåêòû ìû çà ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû ñäåëàëè íå ìàëåíüêèå è îñòàíàâëèâàòüñÿ íå ñîáèðàåìñÿ. Âîò ìåíÿ óæå âòîðîé ãîä ñìàíèâàþò íà full-time. Ìíå full-time íà óäàëåíêè êàê-òàêîâîé íå íóæåí, ò.ê. ó ìåíÿ îñíîâíàÿ ðàáîòà è òàê íå ïëîõàÿ è ïðè æåëàíèè è îïðåäåëåííûõ óñèëèÿõ òàê æå ìîæíî ïåðåâåñòè â êàêîé-íèáóäü çàðóáåæíûé îôèñ.
 ïðîøëîì ãîäó êàê-òî âñå íå áûëî âîçìîæíîñòè îðãàíèçîâàòü íåîáõîäèìûé ïðîöåññ ñ âèçîé (àìåðèêàíñêèé ïàðòíåð íå ïðîòèâ) + ñåìåéñòâî ìîå "íå ñîçðåëî". Ýòîé îñåíüþ îïÿòü áóäóò â øòàòàõ - â ãîñòè çàçûâàþò, ÷òî áû ïîêàçàòü, ãäå ÿ ìîãó ïðîæèâàòü âîò è áóäóò ñåðüåçíî óæå îáùàòüñÿ. |
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