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: , 16, 2008 9:06am : Êàê ïîëó÷èòü òóðèñòè÷åñêóþ âèçó â ÑØÀ? |
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åñëè ó ìåíÿ åñòü çíàêîìûé àìåðèêàíåö â ñøà,îí ìíå ìîæåò ñäåëàòü ïðèãëàøåíèå? è êàêîé ñðîê ÿ ìîãó íàõîäèòñÿ â ïî ýòîìó ïðèãëàøåíèþ â ñøà? |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
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: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 16, 2008 9:53am : Re: ñøà |
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åñëè ó ìåíÿ åñòü çíàêîìûé àìåðèêàíåö â ñøà,îí ìíå ìîæåò ñäåëàòü ïðèãëàøåíèå?
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è êàêîé ñðîê ÿ ìîãó íàõîäèòñÿ â ïî ýòîìó ïðèãëàøåíèþ â ñøà? |
Ñ ýòèì ïðèãëàøåíèåì íóæíî òîïàòü â ïîñîëüñòâî/êîíñóëüñòâî ÑØÀ è ïîëó÷àòü òóðèñòè÷åñêóþ âèçó (âåðîÿòíîñòü ïîëó÷åíèÿ âèçû êàê ðàç îáñóæäàåòñÿ â ñîñåäíåì òîïèêå ïîä íàçâàíèåì "Ñóäèìîñòü"). Íó, åå íà íåñêîëüêî ìåñÿöåâ îáû÷íî äàþò. Ðàáîòàòü ïî ýòîé âèçå íåëüçÿ. |
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Fedos Íîâè÷îê
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: 12.04.2008 : 9 : Íîâîñèáèðñê
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: , 16, 2008 10:42am : Re: ñøà |
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è êàêîé ñðîê ÿ ìîãó íàõîäèòñÿ â ïî ýòîìó ïðèãëàøåíèþ â ñøà? |
Ïî óìîë÷àíèþ âèçà B1/B2 âûäà¸òñÿ ñðîêîì íà 1ãîä, îäíàêî âðåìÿ Âàøåãî ïðåáûâàíèÿ â ÑØÀ áóäåò ïðîñòàâëåíî ïðè ïðîõîæäåíèè òàìîæåííîãî êîíòðîëÿ íà âúåçäå îôèöåðîì ìèãðàöèîííîé ñëóæáû ÑØÀ. Îáû÷íî ýòî 3 ìåñÿöà. |
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1 Íîâè÷îê
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à åñëè íåò çíàêîìîãî â ñøà, ÿ ìîãó ïîëó÷èòü òóðèñòè÷åñêóþ âèçó è ÷òî äëÿ ýòîãî íóæíî? |
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Fedos Íîâè÷îê
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: 12.04.2008 : 9 : Íîâîñèáèðñê
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à åñëè íåò çíàêîìîãî â ñøà, ÿ ìîãó ïîëó÷èòü òóðèñòè÷åñêóþ âèçó è ÷òî äëÿ ýòîãî íóæíî? |
Áðîíü îòåëÿ/îòåëåé è òî÷íûé ïëàí ïîåçäêè. Íó è òèêåòû òóäà/îáðàòíî. |
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Half-back Íîâè÷îê
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: 04.11.2010 : 36 : Rostov on Don
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Êàê èçâåñòíî 9 ñåíòÿáðÿ âñòóïèëî ñîãëàøåíèå ìåæäó ÐÔ è ÑØÀ, êîòîðîå äîëæíî îáëåã÷èòü ïðîöåññ ïîëó÷åíèÿ òóð âèç â ÑØÀ.
http://www.golos-ameriki.ru/content/russia-us-visas/1503919.html
 ýòîé ñâÿçè ïðîøó îöåíèòü øàíñû íà ïîëó÷åíèå âèç äëÿ ìåíÿ è ìîåé ñóïðóãè íà Íîâîãîäíèå ïðàçäíèêè è Ðîæäåñòâî íà 2-3 íåäåëè.
ß ó÷àñòíèê W&T-2008, æåíà - W&T-2010.
Ñðîêîâ è óñëîâèé ïðîãðàììû íå íàðóøàëè, â Ðîññèè ðàáîòà áîëåå 3 ëåò ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ âóçà, ó ñóïðóãè ç/ï ~28 ò.ð., ó ìåíÿ îôèöèàëüíî - 15 ò.ð. ((
Âûïèñêè ñî ñ÷åòà ñ $7000-8000 íå ïðîáëåìà, íåäâèæèìîñòü ñêîðåå âñåãî ó ñóïðóãè áóäåò.
Òàêæå èíòåðåñóåò òàêîé âîïðîñ. Íîâûé ôîðìàò òóð âèçû - ýòî ìóëüòèâèçà íà 3 ãîäà, ïðè÷åì íåïðåðûâíî â ñòðàíå ìîæíî ïðåáûâàòü íå áîëåå 6 ìåñÿöåâ.
Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû íå íàðóøàòü ïðàâèëà î òîì, ÷òî ïîåçäêà áóäåò äëèòüñÿ âñåãî 2-3 íåäåëè (êàê áóäåò óêàçàíî â âèçîâîé àíêåòå), òî íåîáõîäèìî âåðíóòüñÿ â ÐÔ (÷òîá íå èìåòü ïðîáëåì ñ âèçàìè â äàëüíåéøåì). Îäíàêî ÿ ìîãó ÷åðåç êîðîòêèé ïðîìåæóòîê âðåìåíè (ìåñÿö) âíîâü ïðèåõàòü â ÑØÀ (ìóëüòèâèçà-òî óñëîâíî ãîâîðÿ åñòü) è íàïðèìåð èñêàòü ðàáîòó â ÈÒ, õîäèòü íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ è ò.ä. ß íàõîæó ðàáîòó, âîçâðàùàþñü â ÐÔ è îôîðìëÿþ ðàáî÷óþ âèçó H1B èëè J-1 ïî ïðîãðàììå ñòàæèðîâêè. È âîò ÿ âíîâü â ÑØÀ )
Ýòà ñõåìà â îáùåì ïîëíîñòüþ ëåãàëüíà è çàêîííà? Óêàæèòå íà ïîäâîäíûå êàìíè, ïîæàëóéñòà. _________________ Stay hungry, stay foolish. (C) |
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Doxx US Patriot
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: 14.06.2003 : 2082 : Ulyanovsk, Russia
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Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû íå íàðóøàòü ïðàâèëà î òîì, ÷òî ïîåçäêà áóäåò äëèòüñÿ âñåãî 2-3 íåäåëè (êàê áóäåò óêàçàíî â âèçîâîé àíêåòå), òî íåîáõîäèìî âåðíóòüñÿ â ÐÔ (÷òîá íå èìåòü ïðîáëåì ñ âèçàìè â äàëüíåéøåì). |
ÈÌÕÎ, â ïîñîëüñòâå ìîæíî ñêàçàòü ÿ íà 2-3 íåäåëè, ìîæåò äàæå áðîíü îòåëÿ ïîêàçàòü (õîòÿ ÿ íå çíàþ, òðåáóåòñÿ ëè ýòî äëÿ ïîëó÷åíèÿ è ãàðàíòèè âèçû êàê âî ìíîãèõ åâðîñòðàíàõ?), à íà äåëå îñòàòüñÿ õîòü íà ïîëãîäà, íèêòî æ íå íàïèøàò ïîòîì òåáå â äåëå "óåçæàë íà 2 íåäåëè, ïðîáûë 2,4,8.. íåäåëè" _________________ Ñäåëàé ñâîþ ìå÷òó öåëüþ. /Doxx/
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Half-back Íîâè÷îê
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: 04.11.2010 : 36 : Rostov on Don
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Íà äðóãèõ ôîðóìàõ ÷èòàë, ÷òî î ñðîêàõ ïðåáûâàíèÿ ñòàâÿòñÿ îòìåòêè ïðè âúåçäå è âûåçäå èç ÑØÀ.
Òàêèì îáðàçîì âåäåòñÿ ó÷åò. È ïðè ïîëó÷åíèè ñëåäóþùåé âèçû êîíñóë íàâåðíÿêà ñïðîñèò, ïî÷åìó â ïðîøëûé ðàç âû ñîáèðàëèñü íà êîðîòêîå âðåìÿ è êàê òóðèñò, à îñòàëèñü íàäîëãî, íàøëè ðàáîòó è òåïåðü ïðîñèòå ðàáî÷óþ âèçó?
Âîò èíòåðåñíî ìíåíèå ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó áîëåå îïûòíûõ ëþäåé. _________________ Stay hungry, stay foolish. (C) |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Ýòà ñõåìà â îáùåì ïîëíîñòüþ ëåãàëüíà è çàêîííà? Óêàæèòå íà ïîäâîäíûå êàìíè, ïîæàëóéñòà. |
Êîãäà áóäåòå ïðîõîäèòü ñîáåñåäîâàíèå, ðàçóìååòñÿ, íå ñëåäóåò ñîîáùàòü, ÷òî äàæå äóìàåòå î òîì, ÷òîáû ðàáîòàòü â Øòàòàõ.
Ïðè çàïîëíåíèè àíêåò ïîñîëüñòâà (åùå äî ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ) ñïðàøèâàþòñÿ äàòû ïîåçäêè. Ïðè âúåçäå â ñòðàíó èììèãðàöèîííûé îôèöåð èíòåðåñóåòñÿ öåëÿìè ïîåçäêè, ïîñëå ýòîãî ñòàâèò ðàçðåøàåìûé ñðîê (êàê ïðàâèëî, ýòî íåñêîëüêî ìåñÿöåâ). Íå çíàþ, âëèÿåò ëè êàê-òî òîò ôàêò, ÷òî â ñòðàíå òû ìîæåøü íàõîäèòüñÿ äîëüøå, ÷åì ïëàíèðîâàë ðàíüøå, íà ïîëó÷åíèå âèçû â áóäóùåì. Åñëè ïàëêó íå ïåðåãèáàòü - òî ñîìíåâàþñü, òàê êàê ïîâòîðíî ïîëó÷èòü âèçó ìîæíî áåç ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ â ïîñîëüñòâå. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Half-back Íîâè÷îê
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: 04.11.2010 : 36 : Rostov on Don
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Andrew, áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî çà îòâåò.
Âîïðîñ íåìíîãî â ñòîðîíó îò îñíîâíîé òåìû. Äëÿ îñóùåñòâëåíèÿ óñïåøíîãî ïîèñêà ðàáîòû íóæíî åùå îïðåäåëèòüñÿ ñ ìåñòîì äèñëîêàöèè.
Íàòîëêíèòå íà ìûñëü, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãäå ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü àíàëèòèêó ïî òðåáóåìûì ñïåöèàëèñòàì â îïðåäåëåííîé îòðàñëè (â ÷àñòíîñòè ÈÒ) è ðàñïðåäåëåíèå ïî ðåãèîíàì.
Ñóáúåêòèâíî è ãðóáî ìîæíî îöåíèòü ïî òåì æå ñàéòàì ïîèñêà ðàáîòû, óâåðåí åñòü áîëåå òî÷íûå èññëåäîâàíèÿ. _________________ Stay hungry, stay foolish. (C) |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Íàòîëêíèòå íà ìûñëü, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãäå ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü àíàëèòèêó ïî òðåáóåìûì ñïåöèàëèñòàì â îïðåäåëåííîé îòðàñëè (â ÷àñòíîñòè ÈÒ) è ðàñïðåäåëåíèå ïî ðåãèîíàì. |
ß áû íàîáîðîò âûáèðàë ñíà÷àëà ìåñòîë æèòåëüñòâà, ïîòîì óæå èñêàë áû òàì ðàáîòó. Åñëè ñïåöèàëèñò òû õîðîøèé, óâåðåí â ýòîì è ñìîæåøü îáúÿñíèòü ïî÷åìó, òî ðàáîòà âåçäå íàéäåòñÿ. À æèòü òàì, ãäå íå íðàâèòñÿ, ëèøü áû áûëà ðàáîòà - òàê âåäü è íàäîåñòü ìîæåò.
Òàê êàê ñàì æèâó ïî òàêîìó ïðèíöèïó, òî êàêèõ-òî èñòî÷íèêîâ ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó ïîðåêîìåíäîâàòü íå ìîãó, íî òîïîâûå ðåãèîíû â ñôåðå IT:
- Bay Area
- Boston
- Seattle
- New York City
- Chicago
- DC
- Los Angeles (â ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ áóðíî íàáèðàåò îáîðîòû) _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Íå çíàþ, âëèÿåò ëè êàê-òî òîò ôàêò, ÷òî â ñòðàíå òû ìîæåøü íàõîäèòüñÿ äîëüøå, ÷åì ïëàíèðîâàë ðàíüøå, íà ïîëó÷åíèå âèçû â áóäóùåì. |
Îïðåäåëåííî äà, åñëè èìåë ìåñòî îáìàí. È íåò, åñëè åãî íå áûëî. Äîëãî ïèñàòü íå õî÷ó, ó ìåíÿ ïðèñòóï ìèçàíòðîïèè, ñìîòðèòå ïðèìåð - http://phpbb.poexali.com/viewtopic.php?t=7473&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=4f47d112c5042e0a7a490772ffdb6489 |
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Half-back Íîâè÷îê
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: 04.11.2010 : 36 : Rostov on Don
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Andrew, áëàãîäàðþ çà ñïèñîê è èäåþ íà÷èíàòü ïîèñêè ðàáîòû ñ âûáîðà íàèáîëåå áëàãîïðèÿòíî äëÿ æèçíè ìåñòà. Íàòîëêíóëè íà èíòåðåñíûå ìûñëè.
Hashish, âû ñêîðåå ôèëàíòðîï, ðàç ïîìîãàåòå ) Òîïèê âíåñ ÿñíîñòü.
 ñâÿçè ñ òåì, ÷òî ýòî âåñüìà ñóùåñòâåííî âëèÿåò íà ñèòóàöèþ, è ïî îïèñàííîé âûøå ñõåìå åõàòü êðàéíå íå æåäàòåëüíî, òî ïðîøó ïîäñêàçàòü åùå.
Åñëè ïî òóðèñòè÷åñêîé âèçå íàïðàëÿþñü ÿ îäèí áåç ñóïðóãè. Íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèå. Äíåé íà 7.
Ñòîèò ëè êîíñóëó ãîâîðèòü, ÷òî åäó íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèå? ( îäíîé êîìïàíèè ìåíÿ äåéñòâèòåëüíî õîòÿò âèäåòü, ìîãóò ïîäòâåðäèòü, âåäó ïåðåãîâîðû î òîì, ÷òîáû îáîéòèñü áåç ëè÷íîãî ñîáåñåäîâàíèÿ, íî ýòî äðóãàÿ èñòîðèÿ).
Âåðíóñü ÿ ïðè óäà÷íîì èñõîäå ñ ïîäïèñàííûì Training Plan äëÿ J-1 âèçû è ñðàçó ìîãó â Ðîññèè ïî âîçâðàùåíèè íà÷àòü åå îôîðìëåíèå.
Èëè æå ñòîèò ïîëó÷àòü òóð âèçó äëÿ "òóð ïîåçäêè" òîæå äíåé íà 7-10, íî òîãäà ïðè îôîðìëåíèè J-1 âèçû ìîãóò çàäàòü âîïðîñ "à êàê ýòî âû ðàáîòó íàøëè?". _________________ Stay hungry, stay foolish. (C) |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Òóðèñòè÷åñêàÿ âèçà äàåòñÿ ñ öåëüþ, ÷òîáû ïóòåøåñòâîâàòü, à íå èñêàòü ðàáîòó. Äëÿ ðàáîòû åñòü ðàáî÷àÿ âèçà.
Åñëè êîíñóë óçíàåò, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê åäåò íå ïóòåøåñòâîâàòü, à íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèå, òî, ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ïðàêòè÷åñêè ãàðàíòèðîâàííî ïîñòàâèò îòêàç. Íî, ñêîðåé âñåãî, ïîõâàëèò çà íàèâíóþ ÷åñòíîñòü ![Èðîíè÷åñêè çëîé](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
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: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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Òóðèñòè÷åñêàÿ âèçà äàåòñÿ ñ öåëüþ, ÷òîáû ïóòåøåñòâîâàòü, à íå èñêàòü ðàáîòó. Äëÿ ðàáîòû åñòü ðàáî÷àÿ âèçà.
Åñëè êîíñóë óçíàåò, ÷òî ÷åëîâåê åäåò íå ïóòåøåñòâîâàòü, à íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèå, òî, ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ïðàêòè÷åñêè ãàðàíòèðîâàííî ïîñòàâèò îòêàç. Íî, ñêîðåé âñåãî, ïîõâàëèò çà íàèâíóþ ÷åñòíîñòü ![Èðîíè÷åñêè çëîé](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
Ãëàâíîå, ÷òîáû êîíñóë íàèâíî ÷åñòíî âêëåèë âèçó, à íå øòàìï îá îòêàçå ïîñòàâèë ![Øèðîêàÿ óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________ MaxiM |
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Evgeniy Malyshev Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 12.03.2012 : 450 : Dm.-Pomryaskino/Ulyanovsk, Russia
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îòêàç â øåíãåíêå ìîæåò êàê òî ïîâëèÿòü íà òóð. âèçó? Äîïóñòèì, åñëè åñòü ñîáñòâåííîñòü â ÐÔ ? _________________ If you`re going to San Francisco,
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you`re going to San Francisco,
You`re gonna meet some gentle people there |
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Half-back Íîâè÷îê
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Andrew (): |
Òóðèñòè÷åñêàÿ âèçà äàåòñÿ ñ öåëüþ, ÷òîáû ïóòåøåñòâîâàòü, à íå èñêàòü ðàáîòó. Äëÿ ðàáîòû åñòü ðàáî÷àÿ âèçà.
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Áëàãîäàðþ, òåïåðü ïðåäåëüíî ÿñíî.
Íå óçíàåò, òåïåðü íè çà ÷òî íå ñêàæó
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Ãëàâíîå, ÷òîáû êîíñóë íàèâíî ÷åñòíî âêëåèë âèçó, à íå øòàìï îá îòêàçå ïîñòàâèë |
Àêêóðàòíî áóäó ïîäòàëêèâàòü åãî èìåííî ê ýòîìó. _________________ Stay hungry, stay foolish. (C) |
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Hashish Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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Andrew (): |
Òóðèñòè÷åñêàÿ âèçà äàåòñÿ ñ öåëüþ, ÷òîáû ïóòåøåñòâîâàòü, à íå èñêàòü ðàáîòó. |
À äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ? À äëÿ ïîñòóïëåíèÿ â óíèâåðñèòåò? À ïåðñîíàëüíûå ñëóãè? Ðîæü, îâîùè, âîò ýòî âîò âñ¸. |
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MaxiM Áóäóùèé àìåðèêàíåö
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: 03.06.2003 : 3546 : Moscow
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Evgeniy Malyshev (): |
îòêàç â øåíãåíêå ìîæåò êàê òî ïîâëèÿòü íà òóð. âèçó? Äîïóñòèì, åñëè åñòü ñîáñòâåííîñòü â ÐÔ ? |
Îòêàç â øåíãåíêå íà îñíîâàíèè ÷åãî? Íåïðàâèëüíî çàïîëíåííàÿ àíêåòà, ÷åãî-òî â ïîñîëüñòâî íå ïðåäñòàâëåíî èëè îáúåêòèâíûé îòêàç èç-çà íåæåëàíèÿ êîíñóëà ïóñêàòü â ñâîþ ñòðàíó?  ëþáîì ñëó÷àå øòàìïà îá îòêàçå ëó÷øå íå èìåòü â ïàñïîðòå. _________________ MaxiM |
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Evgeniy Malyshev Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 12.03.2012 : 450 : Dm.-Pomryaskino/Ulyanovsk, Russia
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Èç-çà íàðóøåíèé â ïîäà÷å àíêåòû Ðîñïåðñîíàëà.. ![Neutral](images/smiles/icon_neutral.gif) _________________ If you`re going to San Francisco,
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you`re going to San Francisco,
You`re gonna meet some gentle people there |
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