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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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: , 28, 2005 5:07am : Re: When you just learn English to much |
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Katie_Melnik (): |
my God, people what r u talking about? No matter how hard u study a foreign language it can not affect the everyday usage of your mothertongue. especially if u live in the country you were born. ![Øîêèðîâàí](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) |
Íà ñàìîì äåëå èíîãäà áûâàåò
Ïðàâäà, ñî ìíîé äàâíî òàêîãî íå áûëî, òàê êàê íà àíãëèéñêîì óæå äàâíî íå îáùàëñÿ. Èç ïîñëåäíåãî, ÷òî îòìî÷èë - ïðåäëîæèë äåâóøêå ïîèìåòü çîíòèê ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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dimbur Íîâè÷îê
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We started to study tough German this school year. Believe it or not, but when asked in English or in Russian some of us replied in German. So, that kind of thing can come off for sure. ![Ïðîôåññîð](images/smiles/icon_umnik.gif) |
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White Owl Øòàòíûé çàíóäà
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: 10.03.2003 : 2452 : USA, New York City
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: , 28, 2005 2:26pm : Re: When you just learn English to much |
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Katie_Melnik (): |
my God, people what r u talking about? No matter how hard u study a foreign language it can not affect the everyday usage of your mothertongue. especially if u live in the country you were born. ![Øîêèðîâàí](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) |
But YOU can use proper language. Please do.
And by the way - "native tongue", not "mothertongue". |
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zhanna Íîâè÷îê
: 05.10.2006 : 10
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: , 7, 2006 5:18am : |
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Hey guys!I am learning english and communicate with americans every week!So as i am a future interpreter,i have to know english fluently.
I try to work on my english every day.But when i speak in english i cannot say something fast.I know that i need in practice a long time.What methods are there to speak in english fast?
or maybe you know how to train speaking? ![Ïîäêàëûâàþ](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ Oh, shit!!!))) |
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anuta Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 02.11.2005 : 237 : Irkutsk-Daytona Beach-Philadelphia
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: , 11, 2006 3:27am : |
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zhanna (): |
Hey guys!I am learning english and communicate with americans every week!So as i am a future interpreter,i have to know english fluently.
I try to work on my english every day.But when i speak in english i cannot say something fast.I know that i need in practice a long time.What methods are there to speak in english fast?
or maybe you know how to train speaking? ![Ïîäêàëûâàþ](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
I wish I had your problem; I speak way too fast; sometime my students have a hard time taking notes in my class. By the way, why do you need to speak fast? If you are going to be an interpretor; you shold pace yourself... |
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zhanna Íîâè÷îê
: 05.10.2006 : 10
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: , 12, 2006 9:44am : |
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Yeah,sure....I am going to be interpreter.I want speak fast,cause sometimes when i want to say something,i am thinking a lot like "how to say about my idea or opinion? "
To my mind,interpreter must to speak fluently and fast
but i am still a student,do not work.But i think i have to study about my specialty and know a lot of information. ![Ïðîôåññîð](images/smiles/icon_umnik.gif) _________________ Oh, shit!!!))) |
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Tina Íîâè÷îê
: 18.02.2009 : 1 : Âåëèêèé Íîâãîðîä
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: , 18, 2009 7:55pm : |
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âñåì âå÷åð äîáðûé, ó÷ó àíãëèéñêèé ÿçûê ïÿòûé ãîä, à ïðàêòèêè êàê òàêîâîé òàê è íå áûëî, î÷åíü õî÷åòñÿ â ÑØÀ |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
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: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 19, 2009 6:57am : |
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Tina (): |
âñåì âå÷åð äîáðûé, ó÷ó àíãëèéñêèé ÿçûê ïÿòûé ãîä, à ïðàêòèêè êàê òàêîâîé òàê è íå áûëî, î÷åíü õî÷åòñÿ â ÑØÀ |
Ìîæíî óñòàíîâèòü êàêóþ-òî ïðîãðàììó äëÿ ãîëîñîâîãî îáùåíèÿ (íàïðèìåð, Skype), íàéòè çíàêîìîãî èç Àìåðèêè äëÿ îáùåíèÿ/ïåðåïèñêè è ïðàêòèêîâàòüñÿ.
Äëÿ áîëòîâíè ÷åðåç Skype íóæåí ìèêðîôîí (ëþáîé êîìïüþòåðíûé), êîëîíêè èëè íàóøíèêè, è âñ¸. Ñàìà ïðîãà áåñïëàòíàÿ. Êëàâèàòóðíûé ÷àò â íåé òîæå åñòü. |
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Redneck Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 10.11.2008 : 361 : Yekaterinburg
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Tina (): |
âñåì âå÷åð äîáðûé, ó÷ó àíãëèéñêèé ÿçûê ïÿòûé ãîä, à ïðàêòèêè êàê òàêîâîé òàê è íå áûëî, |
5 ãîä - è îäíà òåîðèÿ?
Ìîæåò, ñòîèò çàïèñàòüñÿ íà êóðñû è ïðàêòèêîâàòüñÿ òàì?
Ïîíèìàþ, ýòî êîíå÷íî íå ñ àìåðèêàíöåì ãîâîðèòü. Âñ¸ ýòî ëèøü ôóíäàìåíò, êîòîðûé ëó÷øå, ÷åì íè÷åãî ïðè âúåçäå â ñòðàíó.
Íà ïðèìåðå Àíäðåÿ ìîæíî óáåäèòüñÿ, ÷òî íóæíî âñåãî íåñêîëüêî ëåò, ÷òîáû íîðìàëüíî çàãîâîðèòü (ïðè ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèõ óñèëèÿõ ñî ñâîåé ñòîðîíû, åñòåññòâåííî).
ß âîò ñàì õî÷ó çàïèñàòüñÿ, íî ïîêà íåò âðåìåíè\äåíåã. È âîîáùå, ê ýòîìó âîïðîñó íóæíî òùàòåëüíî ïîäõîäèòü. Ìåíÿ êëàññè÷åñêèé àíãëèéñêèé íå èíòåðåñóåò. Åñòü ëè â ãîðîäå ñïåöèàëüíàÿ ïðîãðàììà ïî èçó÷åíèþ àìåðèêàíñêîãî - î÷åíü ñîìíåâàþñü. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Redneck (): |
Íà ïðèìåðå Àíäðåÿ ìîæíî óáåäèòüñÿ, ÷òî íóæíî âñåãî íåñêîëüêî ëåò, ÷òîáû íîðìàëüíî çàãîâîðèòü (ïðè ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèõ óñèëèÿõ ñî ñâîåé ñòîðîíû, åñòåññòâåííî). |
ß áû íå ñòàë ïî ìíå ñóäèòü. Åñòü ëþäè, êîòîðûì ÿçûê äàåòñÿ íàìíîãî ïðîùå. Æåíà, íàïðèìåð, âîîáùå øèêàðíî ãîâîðèò - íå ïðîñòî çíàåò, êàê ïðàâèëüíî ñêàçàòü ãðàììàòè÷åñêè, íî è ìîæåò êîïèðîâàòü ýìîöèè, êîòîðûå âêëàäûâàþò â ðàçãîâîð àìåðèêàíöû, íàïðèìåð. È ýòî î÷åíü åñòåñòâåííî íà íåé ñìîòðèòñÿ Ìíå ýòî ñëîæíî.
Ïëþñ, åñëè íå ãîâîðèòü î ïîñëåäíèõ íåñêîëüêèõ ìåñÿöàõ, êîãäà ÿ ñòàë çàíèìàòüñÿ îáó÷åíèåì ëþäåé, ÿ ìíîãîå âðåìÿ ïðîâîäèë â ñâîåì êàáèíåòå - îäèí, ãîâîðèë ïî-àíãëèéñêè ìàëî. Ýòî, âèäèìî, ó÷åñòü ìíîãèõ êîìïüþòåðùèêîâ ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
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: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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Andrew (): |
Åñòü ëþäè, êîòîðûì ÿçûê äàåòñÿ íàìíîãî ïðîùå.
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Ýòî òî÷íî. Ó ìåíÿ ñåñòðåíêà óæå è íà àíãëèéñêîì ãîâîðèò, è íà íåìåöêîì è íà ãðå÷åñêîì. À ÿ âñ¸ íèêàê òîëêîì àíãëèéñêèé îñâîèòü íå ìîãó. Õîòÿ äåëî, íàâåðíîå, íå òîëüêî â ñïîñîáíîñòÿõ, íî è âî âëîæåííîì â èçó÷åíèå òðóäå.
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Æåíà, íàïðèìåð, âîîáùå øèêàðíî ãîâîðèò - íå ïðîñòî çíàåò, êàê ïðàâèëüíî ñêàçàòü ãðàììàòè÷åñêè, íî è ìîæåò êîïèðîâàòü ýìîöèè, êîòîðûå âêëàäûâàþò â ðàçãîâîð àìåðèêàíöû, íàïðèìåð. È ýòî î÷åíü åñòåñòâåííî íà íåé ñìîòðèòñÿ
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Êëàññíî!
Andrew (): |
Ïëþñ, åñëè íå ãîâîðèòü î ïîñëåäíèõ íåñêîëüêèõ ìåñÿöàõ, êîãäà ÿ ñòàë çàíèìàòüñÿ îáó÷åíèåì ëþäåé, ÿ ìíîãîå âðåìÿ ïðîâîäèë â ñâîåì êàáèíåòå - îäèí, ãîâîðèë ïî-àíãëèéñêè ìàëî. Ýòî, âèäèìî, ó÷åñòü ìíîãèõ êîìïüþòåðùèêîâ ![Óëûáêà](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
Àãà. ×òîáû íàó÷èòüñÿ âîäèòü ìàøèíó, ïîñëå ïîëó÷åíèÿ áàçîâûõ çíàíèé/óìåíèé, å¸ íóæíî âîäèòü. Ìíîãî. Ñ ÿçûêîì àíàëîãè÷íî... |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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Àðòåì (): |
Õîòÿ äåëî, íàâåðíîå, íå òîëüêî â ñïîñîáíîñòÿõ, íî è âî âëîæåííîì â èçó÷åíèå òðóäå. |
Ñîãëàñåí.
Àðòåì (): |
Àãà. ×òîáû íàó÷èòüñÿ âîäèòü ìàøèíó, ïîñëå ïîëó÷åíèÿ áàçîâûõ çíàíèé/óìåíèé, å¸ íóæíî âîäèòü. Ìíîãî. Ñ ÿçûêîì àíàëîãè÷íî... |
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Redneck Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
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: 10.11.2008 : 361 : Yekaterinburg
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Andrew (): |
ß áû íå ñòàë ïî ìíå ñóäèòü. Åñòü ëþäè, êîòîðûì ÿçûê äàåòñÿ íàìíîãî ïðîùå. |
Ýòî ðàäóåò, äàæå î÷åíü. Ïî÷åìó-òî ðàíüøå ÿ áûë óâåðåí, ÷òî íà íîðìàëüíûé ðàçãîâîðíûé ÿçûê íóæíî ëåò, ýòàê, äåñÿòü.
Õîòÿ, îïÿòü æå, ýòî îò ìíîãèõ ôàêòîðîâ çàâèñèò, ïðåæäå âñåãî - îò æåëàíèÿ. Êòî-òî íà Áðàéòîíå æèâ¸ò ñåáå âñþ æèçíü.
ß æå òâ¸ðäî óáåæä¸í, ÷òî Áîã ìåíÿ íå îáäåëèë ñïîñîáíîñòÿìè ê îñâîåíèþ ÿçûêà. Ýòî åù¸ øêîëüíàÿ ó÷èëêà ãîâîðèëà (õîòÿ ñàìà íè ôèãà íå ó÷èëà - ïî÷òè âñ¸, ÷òî ÿ çíàþ, ïîñòèãíóòî â ïðîöåññå æèçíè)
ß ïîñòîÿííî â ñåáå îùóùàþ òàêîå êàêîå-òî ÷óâñòâî ÿçûêà, èíòóèòèâíîñòü. ×óâñòâóþ, êàê ïðàâèëüíî, à êàê íåò. Äàæå íå çíàþ, êàê îáúÿñíèòü íîðìàëüíî, íî, äóìàþ, òû ïîíèìàåøü.
Ïðàâèëüíî ñêàçàíî ïðî àâòî, ÷óâñòâî ðóëÿ òîæå íå âñåì äàíî.
Êîãäà ÿ ñìîãó ïðèñòóïèòü ê èíòåíñèâíîìó èçó÷åíèþ ÿçûêà -
âîïðîñ íåäàë¸êîãî áóäóùåãî. |
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Andrew Ãëàâíûé òðåïà÷
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: 01.03.2003 : 10421 : Èðêóòñê, RU -> Los Angeles, US
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ß ïîñòîÿííî â ñåáå îùóùàþ òàêîå êàêîå-òî ÷óâñòâî ÿçûêà, èíòóèòèâíîñòü. ×óâñòâóþ, êàê ïðàâèëüíî, à êàê íåò. Äàæå íå çíàþ, êàê îáúÿñíèòü íîðìàëüíî, íî, äóìàþ, òû ïîíèìàåøü. |
Ïðåêðàñíî ïîíèìàþ. Îäèí çíàêîìûé îäíàæäû ñêàçàë, ÷òî åñòü ëþäè, êîòîðûå çíàþò ÿçûê, à åñòü òå, êîòîðûå ÷óâñòâóþò. _________________ Àíäðåé Ãåðàñèìîâ ![](http://gerasimov.org/forum/images/hat.gif) |
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