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ULA Íîâè÷îê
: 24.04.2005 : 1 : ÅÊÀÒÅÐÈÍÁÓÐÃ
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: , 24, 2005 3:21pm : êàê ïîïàñòüâ ñøà ïîñëå îòêàçà â òóðâèçå |
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Ïðèâåò âñåì êòî â ñåòè! ß òóò âïåðâûå è íàäåþñü ïîëó÷èòü êàêîé-íèáóäü äåëüíûé ñîâåò ïî ñâîåìó ñëó÷àþ.  ýòîì ãîäó çàêàí÷èâàþ èíñòèòóò(çàùèòà 15 ìàÿ) è äóìàëà ïîåõàòü â øòàòû ïî òóðâèçå. Ñîáðàëà âñå íåîáõîäèìûå äîêóìåíòû (ñïðàâêè ñ áîëüøîé çàðïëàòîé, êóïèëà êâàðòèðó, âûøëà çàìóæ, ïîëó÷èëà ïðèãëàøåíèå îò ïîäðóãè èç Íüþ-Éîðêà, çàáðîíèðîâàëà áèëåòû íà äâå íåäåëè (êîíå÷íî ïîëåòåëà áû ïîñëå äèïëîìà, íî íà ñîáåñåäîâàíèè ãîâîðèëà ÷òî ïëàíèðóþ ïåðåä çàùèòîé, òî åñòü îáÿçàòåëüíî âåðíóñü…)) Âîáùåì, äóìàëà ÷òî 90% ìíå äàäóò âèçó. Íî âîò íå äàëè…Óåõàòü õîòåëà ÷òîáû òàì ðàáîòàòü, òåïåðü òàêîé âîò âîïðîñ –êîíñóë ñêàçàë, ÷òî ÿ ìîãó ÷åðåç ãîä ïðîáîâàòü îáðàùàòüñÿ…Çíàêîìûå ñîâåòóþò ÷òî íå íóæíî æäàòü ãîä –ñúåçäèòü â Åâðîïó ëåòîì (âðîäå êàê èìåÿ øåíãåíñêóþ âèçó -ïîëó÷èòü àìåðèêàíñêóþ ïðîùå), â êîíöå àâãóñòà ïðîáûâàòü åùå ïîëó÷èòü âèçó…Ìîæåò. ÷òî òî ïîñîâåòóåòå…Êàêèå âîîáùå åùå âîçìîæíû âàðèàíòû â ìîåì ñëó÷àå?? |
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Doxx US Patriot
: 14.06.2003 : 2082 : Ulyanovsk, Russia
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: , 25, 2005 10:12pm : Re: êàê ïîïàñòüâ ñøà ïîñëå îòêàçà â òóðâèçå |
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(ìûñëè â ñëóõ) Ïîäàé àïïåëÿöèþ íà âèçó. À â ñëó÷àå ÷åãî - åçæàé ïî Åâðîïå, äà è íå ðàäè ëèøíåãî øòàìïà, à ðàäè óäîâîëüñòâèÿ. À íà ñëåäóþùèé ãîä (èëè äàæå îñåíüþ) - ñíîâà â áîé _________________ Ñäåëàé ñâîþ ìå÷òó öåëüþ. /Doxx/
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Àðòåì Ìîäåðàòîð
: 10.03.2003 : 8295 : Russia, Ufa
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: , 30, 2005 4:37pm : |
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Ìîåãî äðóãà âîò è â Èòàëèþ íå ïóñòèëè. Òàê ÷òî, ñ âèçàìè ÷òî-òî òóãîâàòî ñòàëî. |
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Helen_NJ Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 13.11.2003 : 1539 : NC, USA
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: , 1, 2005 12:24am : |
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Íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîìíþ, íå îáÿçàòåëüíî æäàòü ãîä, à ìîæíî ïîäàâàòü îïÿòü, åñëè èçìåíèëèñü âàøè îáñòîÿòåëüñòâà, êîòîðûå ìîãóò ïîâëèÿòü íà âàøó eligibility, òàê ñêàçàòü.
À çà÷åì âû íàâðàëè ïðî âðåìÿ ïîåçäêè? IMHO íàðîä â ïîñîëüñòâå óæå ïðåêðàñíî íàòðåíèðîâàí ðàñïîçíàâàòü, êîãäà ÷åëîâåê âðåò - âîò è çàâåðíóëè. |
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Beringov2004 Íîâè÷îê
: 21.04.2004 : 11 : SPB
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: , 4, 2005 2:22am : Transit visa |
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If you really want to get to the states - get on a cruise ship - get a transit visa - and leave the ship in an American port - but you'll be illegal
2nd option - go to Europe and apply for American visa from a 3rd country - you'll have more chances |
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Debaser Æèòåëü ôîðóìà
: 28.03.2003 : 941 : Cleveland, OH
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: , 4, 2005 5:08am : Re: Transit visa |
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Beringov2004 (): |
2nd option - go to Europe and apply for American visa from a 3rd country - you'll have more chances |
Ïî-ìîåìó ýòî ñîâåðøåííî íåïðàâèëüíàÿ èäåÿ. Âî-ïåðâûõ ïåðâûì âîïðîñîì êîíñóëà áóäåò - ïî÷åìó Âû íå äåëàåòå âèçó â Âàøåé ñòðàíå. Êàê èçâåñòíî, êîíñóëüñòâà óæå äîâîëüíî äàâíî áûëè ïðîèíñòðóêòèðîâàíû îòïðàâëÿòü àïëèêàíòîâ çà âèçàìè îáðàòíî â èõ ñòðàíû, åñëè òîëüêî íåò êàêèõ-òî èñêëþ÷èòåëüíûõ îáñòîÿòåëüñòâ.
Âî-âòîðûõ àíêåòà íà âèçó òàêàÿ æå, êàê è â Ðîññèè, è òàì åñòü âîïðîñ î òîì ïîäàâàëè ëè Âû íà àìåðèêàíñêóþ âèçó ðàíüøå, îòêàçûâàëè ëè Âàì â íåé è ïî÷åìó. Èëè ïðåäëàãàåòñÿ äåâóøêå ñîâðàòü â îôèöèàëüíîì äîêóìåíòå è ïîòîì ïîäïèñàòüñÿ ÷òî ñîãëàñíà ñ òåì ÷òî çà ýòî åé äîñòóï â Øòàòû ìîãóò çàêðûòü íàâñåãäà?
Ïî äåëó: åñëè ïëàí çàêëþ÷àåòñÿ â òîì, ÷òîáû âñåìè ïðàâäàìè è íåïðàâäàìè ïîïàñòü â øòàòû, ãäå óñòðîèòüñÿ íåëåãàëüíî íÿíå÷êîé èëè îôèöèàíòêîé, òî ïðîùå âñåãî íåëåãàëüíî ïåðåéòè ìåêñèêàíî-àìåðèêàíñêóþ ãðàíèöó. Âèçû â Ìåêñèêó äàþò ãîðàçäî ïðîùå ÷åì â Àìåðèêó. Åñëè âñå-òàêè öåëü ïîïàñòü â Àìåðèêó ëåãàëüíà, òî ïî÷åìó áû íå ïîïðîáîâàòü ïîëó÷èòü òó âèçó, êîòîðàÿ ïîëîæåíà, ñîáðàâ è ïðåäîñòàâèâ âñå íóæíûå äîêóìåíòû íà ñîîòâåòñòâóþùóþ âèçó.  ëþáîì ñëó÷àå âàðèàíò ñ îòêðûòûì âðàíüåì êîíñóëó - íàèáîëåå ïðîèãðûøíûé.
À âîîáùå íåïîíÿòíî, åñëè
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Beringov2004 Íîâè÷îê
: 21.04.2004 : 11 : SPB
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: , 5, 2005 11:47pm : -- |
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No, I'm not telling her to lie - she needs to give the correct information in a consulate. I'm sure she'll have more chances to get a visa in a 3rd country - of course it's not guaranteed.
I got an American visa while being in Canada.
Many of American representatives working in Russian consulates are very arrogant people.
Crossing Mexican border will most likely result for her in immigration prison and following deportation. |
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